The Morning Show On Apple TV + SPOILERS

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  1. hummingbird_206

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    Gugu Mbatha-Raw, the actress who plays Hannah, is amazing. I really like the entire cast of this show, but she is the best. The big 4 get all of the press, and will probably get the award noms, but Gugu is great and deserves an Emmy nomination.

    I love this show. I've never been a fan of Steve Carell, so it's easy for me to hate Mitch. But I've always loved Jen so it makes it hard to not like Alex, but she has done a great job making me not like Alex!
     
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  2. zalusky

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    Yes it is a guilty pleasure. Steve Carell has done a good job of sleezy. Last nights speech about everybody keeping things quiet was especially interesting. This show to me feels so much like Succession on HBO where everybody is conniving to get the anchor chair.
     
  3. jsmeeker

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    I assume this show is not a planned one season show? Like, Apple plans to bring it back for a season two with mostly the same cast? Particularly the big names? Trying to figure out how it can work out that Bradley and Alex are still hosting TMS together.
     
  4. realityboy

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    It has been renewed for a second season along with most of the Apple originals.
     
  5. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    Just finished episode 9. Great episode. Very intrigued to see what happens to all these trains that are heading right for each other. Several people all trying to cover their asses, throw someone else under the bus, and stay on the corporate ladder. And then you've got Bradley and Cory who don't have any complicity in this and are just gleefully ready to light the fuse.

    That scene between Claire and Yanko was very odd. Just moments after Claire told Hannah how much she loved Yanko and defended her relationship, she then turns around and breaks up with Yanko? That seemed to come out of nowhere.

    The scene at the end between Mitch and Hannah was amazing. Mitch is so volatile, and Hannah finally stood up to him and said how it was for her. Mitch doesn't seem to understand that the network anchor who makes $20 million a year coming on to a woman is extremely intimidating and that he put these women in a position of choosing their jobs or their conscience. How many people when faced with a split-second decision like that (especially when drunk), would have the balls to stand up to their boss and potentially blow up their career?

    I'm really interested to find out if the story Alex told Mitch was true. It seemed like she was just giving him a preview of the lie she would tell if he tried to go after the show, but they left it vague enough that viewers are left wondering whether Mitch actually raped Alex.

    That extremely long pause by Chip when he was on the phone with Alex seemed to be him giving her a chance to let him in on what she had planned. Since she didn't say anything, I think that was all he needed to know that he has to abandon his loyalty to her if he wants to save his career.
     
  6. TriBruin

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    Yea, this seems to be a very odd story line. I am not sure where this is headed or how it relates to the main story line. Claire doesn't seem to know what she wants in her relationship with Yanko. in some ways, I think she was intrigued (turned-on?) by the secrecy and "rule breaking" part of their relationship. Now that it is been outed, at least to HR, she doesn't seem to want it anymore.

    After the first episodes portraying Mitch as either innocently accused casualty (at best) or someone with very poor judgement (at worst), the show has certainly moved him the creep level. I am pretty sure he knows what he was doing that night, but he also believed that he would always be the believable one (at least until his was fired).

    Color me jaded about Alex, but I don't think Mitch raped her. The way I took that scene was Alex took a mutually agreed upon encounter and twisted the narrative to fit her goals. Consider everyone thinks that Mitch is a sexual predator, which he is, who wouldn't believe that he would take advantage of Alex when she was drunk?

    At this point, Chip is on his own. Everyone is scrambling for their own lifeboat.
     
  7. photoshopgrl

    photoshopgrl Nerd Fashionista TCF Club

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    I believe her side of this entirely. I believe she didn't want it and didn't run from the building out of fear of blowing up her career. HOWEVER, I also truly believe he was/is such a rich arrogant schmuck that he did not know this. He is one of those rich celebrity types that honestly think every woman wants them and feel lucky when they get his attention. I do believe him when he talked about thinking she slept with him to get ahead. That's his entire problem. He has zero self awareness. And now, maybe he'll get some, albeit a little too late.
     
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  8. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    The one thing that scene lacked was her explaining to him how the promotion came about. Not because she tried to use the info to climb the ladder, but because she tried to report him and Fred made it clear that he was going to sweep it under the rug one way or another, so she was basically left with the choice to take a promotion or quit. I assume that explanation will come when it will be more dramatic, probably live on the air during Mitch's interview.
     
  9. inaka

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    Just watched the last episode of the season (episode 10).

    That was a master class in casting. Everyone, and I mean everyone was cast so perfectly. Gugu Mbatha-Raw is such a standout that it nearly goes without saying. She's the type of talent that hopefully will be in just about every film and quality tv show going forward. She deserves it. I was also incredibly impressed with Mark Duplass. I've only really known him from The League, which I also enjoy for an entirely different reason, and that show centers around ad-lib d*ck and fart jokes. I never thought Mark Duplass had it in him to be so perfect in this role as Chip. Even side characters like Martin Short were so entertaining at times (and then utterly creepy) that from a character and acting standpoint he was amazing.

    I really didn't have any expectations at all for this series, and by the end, it completely engrossed me. The look of how it was shot, the music, the tone, everything was spot on. I especially like the mindf%^ of how in some scenes you buy into Mitch's charisma and he seems like such a nice guy to all around, that you almost believe him when he says he's nothing like Martin Short's character. And then when you may not expect it, yeah, he confirms how messed up he really was/is.

    This entire 10 episode season was a masterpiece as far as I'm concerned.
    I loved it.
     
  10. Amnesia

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    So what's going to happen for season 2? I hope and assume that it's not going to still be all about Mitch's behavior...
     
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    I think it's going to be about picking up the pieces and how a show/network recovers after this.

    What a great finale! I was upset when it was over.
     
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    WOW!

    So, that's how you make it work so Bradley and Alex are together.. Damn.. Someone has to die. :( Man... That was tough.. But what an awesome way to end the season. Just loved the wave Corey gives to gives to Fred as he tries to get into the control room to get them off the air.
     
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    I love this show but I have a real problem with this finale. So unrealistic. No way Alex would blow up her career like this. And then locking out Fred from the control room??!! C'mon! I would have bought it if it was a dream/fantasy sequence. And then Alex throwing water on the face to the new producer? Why? It's her fault Chip got fired!
     
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    I didn’t think it was unrealistic at all. The entire season she was breaking down. Mitch already told her the network wanted her gone (and so did Chip a bit later over a voicemail that she’ll hear after the broadcast.) She had no leverage from the start, so little that she already potentially destroyed her career and risked immediate termination when she named Bradley as her co host without any authorization to do so.

    Then her demeanor during her meeting with Fred when she slammed down her glass and said “Are you done?” etc. Her world at The Morning Show was already in turmoil, and so was her private life with even her daughter and her pending divorce. She was a losing control over every facet of her life, and as much as we all focus on Mitch not getting it, (or “did Mitch finally get it at the end?”) it was starting to sink in to her even more the magnitude to which she too was also complicit in allowing Mitch’s behavior to continue, and it now led to a suicide. That’s a game changer.

    When she helped get that Executive Producer to replace Chip, she knew she was making a deal with the devil, hopefully to right her ship. But inside she knew it was the wrong call, and that EP’s comment to “do it for Hannah” was nauseating. He didn’t even know her, or anyone at the show yet. Not his place. All of these elements were not only making her second guess her brash decision to team up with Fred, but after Hannah died, she now knew she was on team cover up. That tips the scales from her having initial plausible deniability of the “good old boys” culture at The Morning Show when Mitch was there, to now being part of an outright sexual misconduct cover up to that led to a woman’s suicide. She wasn’t helping to just replace Chip, they were pinning all of it on him (which was wrong and she knew it), and she was helping to allow Fred come out unscathed and ultimately have nothing change.

    That was enough to make her snap in a monumental way, and it was an epic meltdown that makes total sense to me.
     
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  16. gossamer88

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    I stand by my thoughts. The whole scene felt disingenuous to me and kinda manipulative towards the audience. This was my favorite show on Apple TV+. I'm still looking forward to the second season...albeit with a little trepidation.
     
  17. hummingbird_206

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    Wow, what a finale. @inaka I agree with your description of why Alex finally snapped. She is such a complex character (as are all of the characters in this show.) She's a narcissist but she also cares about people. You could tell she was really conflicted about Chip and how Fred was laying all of the blame on Chip. And the new producer totally deserved the glass of water in the face.

    I love the scenes between Alex and Bradley when they fight and then stop fighting and come together. Reese and Jen have had great chemistry since Reese was Jen's sister on Friends. I love their scenes together. I enjoy when they both go away mad, too. :p

    And Corey taking over in the control room and making sure Fred was locked out, wow, that was great!

    RIP Hannah. :(

    Will be very interesting to see what happens in the second season.
     
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  18. Bierboy

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    Up front, I haven't watched this (nor do I have any desire to watch it). What's fascinating is to watch the change in attitude about this show in this thread after it started getting nominated for awards.
     
  19. jsmeeker

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    A lot of us were into and enjoying the show before that and inspite of early mixed reviews
     
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