The Mentalist - 9-23-11 - Spoilers

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  1. john4200

    john4200 Well-Known Member

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    I meant that none of the camera angles from the "Strawberries and Cream" episode showed BWC's table until Lisbon calls him. But that is not correct, either. There is an aerial shot when Jane and Bertram first walk in, and BWC's character is not at his table.

    In this episode, "Scarlet Ribbons", the very first camera angle shows almost all of the tables. And it is odd. I did not pick up on this until I just rewatched the episode, knowing that BWC's shooting is seconds away. And yet you can clearly see Jane and Bertram sitting at their table in the opening scene, and Bradley Whitford cannot be seen, even though I think I see his table.

    I conclude that the director is playing with time. We are supposed to believe that there is at least one time lapse between the various scene cuts in the mall food court in this episode. Even though there are no "fades to black" for a second like you generally see for a time lapse. I don't like it.

    There are a lot of people visible in that very first scene. I've been freeze-framing it and playing "Where's Waldo", except "Waldo" is anyone who might be RJ or an associate. But I have not found anyone. I cannot see Cho on the upper level, but I think none of the camera angles are right to see him. There is someone standing on the upper level in the middle, could be a woman, with a coat draped over the railing.
     
  2. ClutchBrake

    ClutchBrake Pass the gravy!

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    LOL! :D
     
  3. Chester_Lampwick

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    OMG I was shocked to find out that:
    Lisbon's new car is a Chevy Volt!
     
  4. bleen

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    Hey your name is John - how do we know it's not yoooooooooouuuuu!!!! :eek::eek::eek:
     
  5. bleen

    bleen Protein from the Sea

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    I see what you did there. You're now a suspect too :p
     
  6. cmontyburns

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    Too pat. A narrative mistake was having Jane represent himself. Sure, I guess it's in keeping with his mentality, but by not even hinting at the presentation of a realistic trial it reinforces the notion that creator Bruno Heller didn't really plan a good way to get Jane out of the mess he got him into at the close of last season. This should have played out over a couple of episodes at least, with Jane still in prison and working cases from there.

    I don't necessarily mind that Red John is still at large, but it would have been more interesting to leave it in doubt for a while. And a growing problem the show has is how improbable Red John is becoming. So Taylor was yet another Red John accomplice? This guy has a bigger team than the CBI. It's silly.
     
  7. john4200

    john4200 Well-Known Member

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    I don't have red hair.
     
  8. john4200

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    At this point the only plausible explanation seems to be a cult or secret society with RJ in control. Something like Visualize (I guess it could BE Visualize, but I doubt it).
     
  9. JMikeD

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    It does seem like that. They may as well have pulled a "Jack Armstrong" for all the sense it made.*

    Mike


    *Jack Armstrong was a radio show of the thirties and forties where Jack would get himself into some sort of cliff-hanger trouble at the end of each episode, and if the writers couldn't figure out how to get him out of it, they would just pick up the story after he had gotten himself out of it: "This week, after Jack had escaped from where we left him in the Well of Chitzen Itza, he went back to ....."
     
  10. GoodSpike

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    What surprised me is you could actually hear it running when it was moving.
     
  11. Thom

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    Even electric powertrains make some noise. Usually a whine of some kind.
     
  12. Chester_Lampwick

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    My Escape Hybrid is nearly inaudible when in electric mode. Induction motors are quiet. I do hear a squeal from the inverter sometimes.
     
  13. phox_mulder

    phox_mulder I get paid 2watch TV

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    There was a show last year where a main character drove away in a Tesla.

    Foley artist must have had no idea what it was because they added the sound of a muscle car revving as it drove away.

    I chuckled and thus appreciated that they didn't do that with the Volt.


    phox
     
  14. T-Wolves

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    Keeping the Red John storyline alive = bad writing IMO. :thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

    Last season's finale was perfect. I have no idea why the writers were scared to move on to new storylines.
     
  15. ClutchBrake

    ClutchBrake Pass the gravy!

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    100% Amen. :up:
     
  16. Azlen

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    I've been on facebook too much. Was looking for the like button.
     
  17. betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

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    This. :up: I would have been a lot happier if it had just ended there. Well, that he had gotten RJ.

    They could have had a couple episodes this season with Jane helping them either from prison, till things got resolved and the team being rebuilt, but not with the guy not being RJ. It could have shown Jane how valuable he is and how much he enjoys the work, more than he may want to admit.
     
  18. Rob Helmerichs

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    I was wondering if this was on the level of the Bones Gormogon revelation, but finally decided not. That really broke the show; this didn't break it. It just sucks.
     
  19. cmontyburns

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    Well, if Rigsby turns out to be working for Red John, too, then maybe you were right to begin with. :)
     
  20. GoodSpike

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    I know the cars make noise, I'm just saying I'm surprised I could hear it as part of the show. Maybe it's just because I'm used to car noise, but I don't remember hearing engine noise when regular cars are being driven in TV shows.
     

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