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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Havana Brown, Jan 23, 2006.
Inquiring minds want to know. Are you female and are you in the life?
Let's discuss yesterday's episode of L Word. What is your opinion? What did you like most and least?
haven't watched sunday's l word yet.
thought i made it quite clear, yes i am female......yes, i am gay!
Oh ok. As a gay woman, which character do you relate to the most if any, in the L Word?
And are there safe havens to hang out in Florida where you do not have to deal with labels? Just be yourself?
I was a bit surprised about the condom. However, clean toys are happy toys, so it didn't surprise me that much.
However, I'm really confused with Max/Moira. Moira wants to be a man. I assume she is still attracted to women. So, now that she's changing genders, she want sot sleep with a man? I know that type of thing happens, it just doesn't happen that often, so it is perplexing. I wouldn't have expected Moira to suddenly start liking the opposite sex.
Usually, what you hear about is a man, who wants to be a woman, but is still attracted to women after the sex change.
truthfully, bette is probably someone i could relate too (although, i would have dumped tina ages ago). it's the intelect factor. she's smart, had a good job (and i believe i read jennifer beales is a yalie), has a great relationship with her sister and her friends. her relationships with lovers might be suspect, though. she's in a long-term relationship that's important to her, although, she realizes it might have been a terrible mistake.
I think the condom had two purposes. The first, as Agatha pointed out, was for cleanliness. The second is that it's part of the ritual. Max is not equipped for the job, so she uses a strap-on to facilitate the fantasy. Using a condom perpetuates the fantasy, and helps Max feel like a 'real' man. If you're going to pretend to have a penis, you might as well pretend to use it safely.
First I must say I enjoy our healthy informative discussion but at times I must point out or ask a question that may offend someone that actually lives that particular life, therefore, let me apologize in advance. Having said that, at one point in every sexual orientation some cross a line that resembles perversion, kinkiness, mental confusion of what is right and wrong, loss of self worth and reputation, and down right sickness. Now, that is as I've said the straight and gay world. If one is a woman and love woman and another is a man and loves men, why would they go out of their way to cheat on whom they are with to boot, with someone of the opposite sex, with toys. Come on, there has got to be a better fantasy than that.
To some I guess it is simply a lustful expression.
Wow, that whole scene! So Moira starts out as a gay woman, and now wants to turn into a man, but is now doing men. So does that now make him a gay man when he/she finishes the transformation?
yeah, and its tuff like this that turn me off from watching this show!!
I think that Max/Moira is a little confused too. But the feel I get is that she wants to feel like a man. Having sex with women allows her to feel masculine. Having sex with a gay man, who is attracted to her as a man, also makes her feel masculine. At this point, its not so much about what Max feels is sexually attractive in other people, but how sexually attractive she feels about herself when she is being a man. And the hormones are probably playing a part in this too.
my take on the max/billy sex with the condom..........billy did mention his longtime partner of 12 years had died (i'm thinking, probably aids). he might be hiv positive or have aids himself, hence his need for the condom, even with a strap-on!!
as for what's inside max/moira's head, you got me........i haven't a clue!!
Max/moira is truly confused. She looks like a guy, acts like a guy, walks like a guy and basically thinks like a guy but!!!!!! she uses the women's restroom. If you are going to behave as if you have, pardon me, a penis and scrotum, you might as well have them then.
You see Shane, she is the aggressor and likes her nice short hair cut but she is still a woman. She likes her pants and etc. but she is still a woman.
I think M is cute. If she let her hair grow out and acted more fem plenty of guys would find her hot. I think the condom was just to keep it clean. She does use it with Jenny too.
I am a bit confused over M's attaction to Billy though. And vise versa. She is all woman now. I guess they expect you to believe her arms are getting big but, didn't they didn't seem that big to me. There are plenty of woman that are all woman that have arms like her's. Aside from that she does NOT look at all like a man. Billy likes men. She is lesbo or maybe bi and confused so I guess I can understand her experimenting a bit.
But, I guess he is into it cause its different. Being with a woman who wants to be a man.
Tina said a few weeks ago when she was talking about having feelings about guys that she WAS straight before they (Her and Bette) met.
Then this week they talked about the Gold Star club and I think only 3 of them could say they hadn't slept with a guy. Shane, Carmen and I forget the other one. Maybe Laura?
Although I think Shane was um tricking (pretending to be a gay prostitute) in the first season so not sure how that works.
i only finished the b52 ep. Was that bar manager fired? I think the show description said so but i didnt see it except that he did wave outside the bar and leave. An inferrence?
The special effects of Dana's missing breast and shaved hair were poor. I give them an out, since it is kinda hard to make her breast go away. However, the plastic cap over her eyebrows and hair was bad. Several times, I saw the rubber wrinkle on the back of her neck. When Alice hugged Dana, she had to put her hand over Dana's neck to hide the transition from skin to cap. The actress should've just shaved her head.
Gotta agree with iceturkee, this show is all about stereotypes, especially this season. I've found it difficult to enjoy as much as previous seasons.
I also agree that Tina and Bette should not be together, but I'm much more sympathetic to Tina than to Bette, especially after this last episode. Kicking Tina out while she runs off to here Buddist retreat, and telling Tina that she has lost the priviledge of seeing Kit since they are separated...get over yourself, Bette. You aren't blameless in this failed relationship.
She didn't really kick her out. Just didn't want to share a bed with her anymore. I would think most people wouldn't want to share a bed with someone who wants to sleep with someone else. Expecially when Tina might be going 'straight'.
But, Bette is a ***** and I have no sympathy for her. She has cheated on Tina in the past and even called Tina to ask for permission to cheat. Tina would have probably slept with that guy if he wasn't such a moron and blew his chance.