The Killing "Missing" 6/5/2011 *spoilers*

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by DevdogAZ, Jun 6, 2011.

  1. sharkster

    sharkster Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Jul 3, 2004
    Ah, I see. Well then, yes, I have missed the point if that is it. I am probably much more accustomed to watching real crime so, for me anyway, it's all about the crime. I'm kind of bad about being a 'bottom line' and 'just the facts' person, more than a 'give me all the drama' person. That's where I probably don't fit into tv as well these days. :)

    Maybe in this case, they could have made these main characters more likable from the get-go so that I would have felt more invested in them.

    In that vein, yeah I would agree with you that this should have started in the beginning, with the fundamental character information and had bits and pieces throughout the episodes. As they did it, I found my self bored and completely uninvested.

    If they patch up what seems like a hot mess with this show I would be interested in another season with its own crime. I will probably still be more interested in the crime than the personal lives of the investigators/cops/etc, so that is probably why real crime is more where I belong. Except for Dexter (, this is about the only crime DRAMA I've watched in a zillion years.
  2. windracer

    windracer joined the 10k club

    Jan 3, 2003
    St. Pete, FL
    So Liz (on the phone) is Holder's sister ... are the kids his niece/nephew then, or his being raised by his sister?

    And Regi is Linden's social worker from when she was young. I didn't see that coming, but maybe I wasn't looking hard enough (or paying attention).

    I agree there was some decent character development in this episode, but it definitely came too late in the "season." You can't have filler episodes in these short seasons.
  3. AlphaDelta

    AlphaDelta Member

    Jan 9, 2007
    Ann Arbor, MI
    Clearly this was the "we've no money for a real episode" episode, so we'll film Linden and Holder smoking cigs and eating fast food. Amusing that despite the rain, they never got wet. Linden must have really lost it in the previous case to have a social worker assigned to her.
  4. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003
    No, the social worker wasn't for Jack. It was "her" social worker that was basically her mother figure as Linden bounced around various foster homes as she was growing up.
  5. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    Jeff didn't say anything about Jack, although you are of course correct. There have been indications that Linden went nuts during/as a result of her last big case. This just doesn't happen to be one of those indications.
  6. scooterboy

    scooterboy Coney Island Small

    Mar 27, 2001
    I assume he got the gift for the same nephew he talked about stealing the coin from in his NA meeting.
  7. Vendikarr

    Vendikarr New Member

    Feb 24, 2004
    It finally hit me with this episode. This is a one hour plot from any crime procedural stretched over 13 weeks. I want the crime solved, I don't really care about the grieving parents or the screwed up lives of the detectives.

    I'll finish the season to see the reveal, but I'm definitely not coming back for a season two ( if there is one ).
  8. scooterboy

    scooterboy Coney Island Small

    Mar 27, 2001
    One could also think about it the other way around. That most 1-hour procedurals take a 13 week (or more) story and compress it to conveniently solve it all in 1 hour.

    One could also argue that telling the story over 13 hours is closer to a reality in which solving a murder takes many more hours than that.

    It all depends on how long you're willing to wait for gratification. :)
  9. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    I think the problem with this show is that it doesn't earn the extra time.

    We need interesting characters and interesting stories to be worth drawing it out over 13 weeks. They have neither.
  10. Jon J

    Jon J Curmudgeon TCF Club

    Aug 23, 2000
    Music City USA
    Well said. I agree on all points.
  11. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003
    That's the reason I watched the show from the beginning. I'm not interested in the typical one-hour procedural where everything wraps up neatly in 55 minutes. I wanted to see them take that kind of story and spread it out over 13 episodes and dive deeper into the police work and the emotions and the characters, etc. But the writers of this show have done a pisspoor job of making it interesting. I'm only watching the next two episodes to see the reveal, and then I'll only watch a potential second season if the entire creative staff is replaced.
  12. speedcouch

    speedcouch Geekneck

    Oct 23, 2003
    North Carolina
    I told my husband this whole episode was nothing but a team building exercise between those two.
  13. dwells

    dwells Well-Known Member

    Nov 3, 2001
    Birmingham, Al
    Well, I guess I am in the minority- I actually liked the episode.

    All of the criticism that has been discussed in this thread is understandable- I told my wife when we were watching that a lot of people were going to HATE this episode.

    But, I have become really invested in these characters, and I found it to be very compelling- yes, a part of me is right with most of you in this thread by thinking its ridiculous to have this kind of episode this late in the series- but against all logic, I loved it anyway..........
  14. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Fishers, IN
    Finally go to this one --

    • Plot movement C
    • Character development A-
    • Weather forecasting F

    Actually this ep moved quickly for me. Anyone who's dealt with teenagers (parents, grandparents, guardians, etc.) can completely empathize with what Linden went through. And the growth of the relationship between Linden and Holder was very apparent...and well done I thought...
  15. kcarl75

    kcarl75 Active Member

    Oct 23, 2002
    Southern NH
    I liked the episode, love the show and pacing. I think both of the main actors are great in the roles.
  16. philw1776

    philw1776 Active Member

    Jan 19, 2002
    Seacoast NH
    We need a LIKE feature as in FB (kill me now!) for this Dev, Robo, et. al all these posts.

    WAY too late in the 13 or so episodes to intro a character exposition. WTF?
  17. Johnny Dancing

    Johnny Dancing Closet Rebel

    Sep 3, 2000
    I love this show. Loved this episode. But I don't think it is a good fit for U.S. television.

    We like our crimes solved in an hour by genius detectives with 10 second national fingerprint matching technology and have no time to explore non-case related details.
  18. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Raconteur TCF Club

    Jan 6, 2003
    Don't agree. A well written serial (crime) drama can be a success. The challenge is writing it... {wait for it} well.
  19. sharkster

    sharkster Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Jul 3, 2004
    ITA with Astrohip.

    The problem with this show, as I see it, is the writing. It's all over the place all the time with no proper flow. I would love a 13 episode season dealing with a single crime, during which the characters AND the storyline are developed throughout the season.

    They seem to be more concerned with throwing out the red herrings at every turn so that nobody can figure it out, than putting out a quality story, IMO. I see promise, but with all new writing.

    I don't mind the dark, rainy climate all the time because I like that but I have to wonder if the majority of people find it too dark and dank to be comfortable watching the exact same dark weather all the time. I've been to Seattle (love it!) and it's not dark and raining every single day.
  20. tiams

    tiams New Member

    Apr 19, 2004
    I wasn't even going to watch this show because AMC isn't in HD on DirecTV. I was going to wait for Netflix but so many things online said I was missing a great show and that each week everyone was talking about the suspects, etc. So i began watching the eps online at AMC. I feel bamboozled. This isn't anything that couldn't have waited for DVD. 13 episodes is obviously too long.

    As for this episode though, I imagine the ATM card Rosie was using was the one belonging to her Dad that was found in episode one. Why wasn't that card acitivity checked on day one? They would have found out right then and there that the casino was someplace to look.

    I'm not impressed with the writing and plot development at all.

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