The HR10-6.3 TrojanWorm

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by zamzickles, Nov 2, 2006.

  1. BruceShultes

    BruceShultes Member

    Oct 2, 2006
    Albany, NY


    As far as the audio dropouts on FOX, don't guarantee that the problem is 6.3a.

    I am still running 3.1.5f and have received more frequent audio dropouts on FOX OTA for about 3 weeks.

    I also still have TW cable, which is supposed to be receiving the feed direct from my local station by fiber-optic cable. The audio dropouts exist on that box as well .
  2. TomF

    TomF TiVo: 1999; HD: 2001

    Apr 13, 2001
    San Diego, CA
    I started getting the audio dropouts on Fox OTA immediately after the update, then CBS OTA and now, a couple of weeks later, it's also happening on ABC OTA.
  3. rminsk

    rminsk TiVoted TiVo User

    Jun 4, 2002
    Marina del...
    Remember TiVo is under contract with DirecTV. DirecTV may have not paid for testing, DirecTV could have paid the minimum TiVo estimated to get the release out the door. When ever someone tries to do something on the cheap they end up paying a lot more in the long run.
  4. rminsk

    rminsk TiVoted TiVo User

    Jun 4, 2002
    Marina del...
    Huh? What utilites?
  5. guptasa1

    guptasa1 New Member

    Mar 22, 2005


    Another person here who has no problems so far with 6.3. In fact, if anything, my unit seems to be MORE stable. Haven't experienced a reboot that I'm aware of since 6.3 (was experiencing occasional ones before) and have actually had fewer recording glitches (again, was having some weird recording problems...such as shows not recording from a certain point even though they think they are...I did have one weird anomaly with the green bar so far with 6.3, but none where the data just is gone.) Only audio problems I've noticed is the last few days on 82 (NBCE) for the news with occasional dropouts, BUT, I almost think that's a signal problem with that channel during that time as I haven't seen it anywhere else, including on primetime HD programming on the same channel...

    BTW, I have NO OTA where I'm at...this is all DNS.
  6. dougwx12

    dougwx12 New Member

    Jul 8, 2004
    San Jose, CA
    I'm sorry, but this is just patently false. It's not hard to avoid corruption in the face of power fail/reset, it just takes more care in how you write. Care that I'm sure Tivo has taken for a consumer device without an OFF switch.

    I'm not happy with the audio dropouts, but the above statement is just FUD.
  7. Fish Man

    Fish Man Phish Food

    Mar 4, 2002
    0.7 miles...
    You are correct.

    TiVo uses an extremely robust and time tested journaling file system that is one of the most resistant to being corrupted by "improper" shutdowns in existence.

    I've found that when someone feels they have to preface a technical statement with something that sounds like a resume bullet point, to wit: "Being a computer professional and systems design engineer", what follows us usually uninformed drivel.

    People who truly are expert in the technical field on which they are commenting are usually content to let their statements stand on their own merits and do not feel the need to preface those statements with some sort of credential.
  8. finaldiet

    finaldiet New Member

    May 10, 2004
    Oak forest, Il.
    No re-booting and a few drop-outs on Fox. :) :) :)
  9. TyroneShoes

    TyroneShoes HD evangelist

    Sep 6, 2004
    If I may offer one gentle correction:

    Only some (well, OK, most) of the forum members "overwhelmingly begged" for this. Many of us know better than to ask for trouble. And most of us prefer fully-vetted up revs to rogue PVR programmers shooting from the hip.

    But even if we all begged, pleaded, threatened, and cajoled (which we did not), none of us deserve any of this, and we can't be held even mildly accountable. We did not pay, any of us, up to a grand for the privilege of testing software for Tivo or anyone else. But testing we are.

    And BWaldron was correct in saying (if I may paraphrase), that we were totally blindsided. Historically speaking, this is the first Tivo up rev that really smelled like a DISH up rev. We had every expectation from their track record that Tivo would know what they were doing, and would not screw the pooch. But screw they did.

    But we basically are in agreement on most everything else, and possibly even on the above points.
  10. davsherm

    davsherm Active Member

    Feb 23, 2003
    The number is at least 1334 Recognize any of these people? :D :D
  11. TyroneShoes

    TyroneShoes HD evangelist

    Sep 6, 2004
    What? There was a petition? How did I miss that?
  12. davsherm

    davsherm Active Member

    Feb 23, 2003
    Well look at it this way, the petition worked once, maybe we should start another one for them to fix the issues caused by them giving us 6.3? :D
  13. vMAC

    vMAC New Member

    Aug 4, 2006
    No issues on 6.3a for me!
  14. Budget_HT

    Budget_HT Heavy User (of TiVo)

    Jan 2, 2001
    Renton, WA
    Those dropouts that also occur on your TW cable box have nothing to do with the 6.3a audio dropouts on the HD TiVo.

    I get audio dropouts, mostly on FOX OTA, on my 6.3a HD TiVo, but not on my 3.1 HD TiVo nor on any other HD receiver in the house.

    On the second or third day after the upgrade, the 6.3a HD TiVo froze up and I had to power it down to reboot. Since then we have had no problems except the audio dropouts.
  15. willgetin

    willgetin New Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Central Florida
    I upgraded to 6.3a last week. I am happy with it other than Tytools not muxing to mpg. I love taking shows I don't have time to watch at home with me on my PDA. :eek:

    I haven't watched Fox OTA on my unit enough to comment on the audio drops.

    I can say that before I upgraded, I would get random audio drop outs on the OTA channels I did watch. however, during the times that these did occur, I went to signal strength for the OTA and found the signal strength lower than normal. Later when checked, it would be back to normal. It seems to me after tracking this for a couple of weeks, there are times of the day and atmospheric events that the OTA signal weakens.

    I wonder if a lot of the complaints were there before, but now with the update, people are noticing it and thinking it is a 6.3 problem.
  16. xuxa

    xuxa Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2001
    no problems with 6.3, been working great for me.
  17. mitkraft

    mitkraft Member

    Feb 21, 2003
    I don't think they would have rolled a worm inside the city gates.
  18. power3960

    power3960 New Member

    Jun 25, 2004
    6.3a has been working great for me too. In fact the audio drop out that were occuring on 3.1f have now gone away.
  19. krbriesc

    krbriesc New Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    The day after my 6.3 my TiVo gave the message (Overheated shut down to prevent hardware damage). D tear 2 said they would send me a replacement for my HD TiVo (I specifically said if it is one of your junk pieces keep it) a HR 20 - 700S came instead. My TiVo friend is out for repair now and if there is NPF I will really be upset. D is on borrowed time. They want all receivers to be leased so everyone is equally dissatisfied with the quality of hardware! Cable is looking better all the time.

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