The Handmaid's Tale S4E01, S4E02 & S4E03

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  1. MikeekiM

    MikeekiM Palindromer

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    I know this may not work as well as individual threads.

    But for those that are watching Season 4 as the episodes drop on Hulu, most are probably watching/binging all three of these episodes, since they were dropped all at the same time.

    I felt that having the initial thread focused on the first three episodes, and then moving to single episodic threads would be a good compromise...

    For those joining late in the game, just wait until you watch the first three episodes before participating in this thread or you may be exposed to spoilers!

    I have intentionally kept this first post free of spoilers or episodic content just to introduce the thread and its intent...
     
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    OK... So now that we have that out of the way...Here is a synopsis that I pulled directly off the internet to help remind you of what the episode was about in general...

    S04E01 - Pigs
    An injured June and the fugitive Handmaids find refuge at a farm, an imprisoned Lawrence tries to avoid a death sentence, Aunt Lydia reels from the loss of 86 children on Angels' Flight, and the combative Waterfords learn of June's feat.

    S04E02 - Nightshade
    June plots revenge at the local Jezebels, before she and the Handmaids plan to leave the farm for the next safe house, Moira deals with the fallout of June's choices, while Serena and Fred are bound together by a miracle.

    S04E03 - The Crossing
    Captured by Gilead, June faces a vengeful Aunt Lydia and endures a tortuous interrogation; Nick and Lawrence collaborate to protect June; in Toronto, Luke struggles with how to help June and Hannah.
     
  3. MikeekiM

    MikeekiM Palindromer

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    McKenna Grace, who plays Mrs. Keyes is an impressive actress for her age... She's 14 years old, and perhaps was 13 when she took on this role...

    They struck gold with her... Wow...such a young actress with such a mature presence about her...

    The "Inside the Handmaid's Tale" extra episode explained that they were trying to find someone that was strikingly young, but with that level of maturity as an actress... I think they hit a bullseye with her...
     
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    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    Agreed on McKenna Grace. She's been a recurring character on Young Sheldon, as a fellow gifted kid Sheldon's rival, and she's played that part very well. I was really impressed with how she portrayed this character in THT, given that as a young teenager she's supposed to be the lady in charge of the farm, is a sexual assault survivor, is actively engaged in murder, is smoking, and yet shows that she's also helpless and needy when she's alone with June.

    I'm still finding it hard to swallow that Gilead wouldn't just put June on the wall. They seem to be pretty gleeful about doing that with many other people who have committed far less serious sins. Yet for some reason they keep June alive and keep allowing her to get the better of them. There's no way Nick has enough juice to keep her alive if the elders want her dead.

    We didn't really get to see whether the other handmaids knew that June ratted them out. We went straight from June giving away their location, to them all being together in the back of that truck but unable to talk because Aunt Lydia was there.

    That final scene with the train was pretty intense. Not sure how someone can just run like that and not be aware of the train coming from their side.
     
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    Agree that's she is excellent here.

    She is also Young Sheldon's nemesis. Excellent there as well.
     
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    I agree... I have been saying this to my wife for ages... But, of course, I have to remember that there is no show without June... ;)

    Aunt Lydia said something in the third episode addresses this... June basically said "kill me already" (not a precise quote)... And Aunt Lydia said that they would never kill her because she was a fertile handmaid, and that Gilead would never do that...

    Am I missing something here? I don't recall Handmaids being exempt from the wall...
     
  7. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    No, they're definitely not exempt from the wall.

    Not to mention that in the first episode of this season when Aunt Lydia was talking to the council of elders, she said justice would be done when June was hanging on the wall. She wouldn't say that if there was some government policy that protected handmaids from that kind of punishment.
     
  8. Rob Helmerichs

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    Yeah, that is one thing that increasingly pisses me off about this show...June is immune from the consequences of her actions because they won't cut Moss loose, and the writers aren't even trying to pretend otherwise. They just throw her into situations which she logically can't survive, and then just make some stupid &@^! up to get her out of it. For a show that has such amazing qualities, it's really sad that they sink this low on that aspect of the writing.

    (The other thing that bothers me, and has had me close to quitting for a couple of seasons now, is the torture-porn aspect of the show. For a while at the beginning of this season it looked like they were going to introduce a ray of hope, but they sure squashed that fast!)
     
  9. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    Well, we'll see whether being on the other side of the tracks gives June and Janine any kind of chance to get free again. Probably not, since that would seriously impact the structure of the show. Now that Fred and Serena are in Canada, there wouldn't be any compelling character in Gilead for the show to focus on if June were to make it across the border.
     
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    June was struggling with Aunt Lydia for quite a bit in the van while the other girls got a head start towards the train... How did she end up catching up and beating all the other handmaids across to the other side of the tracks?

    I guess I may have to go back and watch that...

    My only assumption is that when they were able to shoot one of the handmaids, perhaps all of them stopped in their tracks in shock, which allowed June to catch up and pass them?
     
  11. Regina

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    SERENA IS PREGNANT???
     
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  12. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    Yeah, that's pretty crazy. Is it Fred's? Do we know if she's been with anyone else? How long have they been in Canada? SO. MANY. QUESTIONS!
     
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    When/if she returns to Gilead, will she be required to wear a red robe and a white bonnet?
     
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    June NOT being executed really pushed past the boundaries of believe-ability of the universe they have created here. So many people have been executed/maimed for far less. I mean if they were serious about keeping her and her friends as breeders, and keeping in line with the brutality of the world created here, I could see them amputating legs and hands, damaging vision, and many other barbaric ways to maim them to keep them under control while not damaging their reproductive parts.

    I feel like they should have had a dramatic prison escape by Mayday or other defectors, or Nick realizing despite his best efforts she will killed, or they would do what I said above and him not being able to live with himself if that happened, facilitates her escape.

    They had options and the one they choose doesn't line up with the show they've made.
     
  15. MikeekiM

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    Wrong thread... This thread is for the first three episodes... I've created a new thread for episode 4 "Milk".

    I am spoilerizing my quote so that if you move your thread, the contents won't be seen by those who don't want to have visibility to it in this thread...
     
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  16. Rob Helmerichs

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    Oops, sorry. I thought it was a season thread.
     
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    The problem of killing June is that we know from the sequel novel The Testaments
    that she survives and is reunited with baby Nichole and Hanna (Agnes).
    So they can't kill her off. Hopefully they will get her out of Gilead and have her work with Mayday from Canada.
     
  18. Rob Helmerichs

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    Well, the Walking Dead has taught us that that's no obstacle...and that's a show where the comic's writer is in the writer's room!
     

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