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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Cainebj, Aug 15, 2019.
Agree, all of these are possible! So you agree that there's no Season 4 without June
Like it or not, this is June's show (and, perhaps more importantly, Elizabeth Moss's!)...
I like, very much.
Generally mostly yes but you know they said that about Walking Dead and Rick. They would need to develop some secondary characters further.
I don't get how June can stay in Gilead. She's shot, with all the kids disappearing I can imagine they will come through every house with a fine with comb. Did they have anyone clear those strips of cloth they put up to track the way to the airport. If not Commander Lawrence is dead, but he's probably dead anyways because of his wife killing herself.
I think Commander Lawrence realized he's in a no-win situation. He realizes the situation he created in Gilead is evil and needs to be stopped. But he's powerless to stop it at this point. He can't leave Gilead or he'll be imprisoned and tried as a war criminal. He feels an obligation to help June in her efforts to make things right, even though he knows this will almost certainly result in his execution. I suspect his death will happen in the first episode of S4.
I think he could go into Canada now. I mean all the Martha's and kids met in his house before flying to Canada, and he would still face a trial but mitigating circumstances could save him after being found guilty. However, I think episode S04E01 will have him dead as well. I bet we'll see him hanging by his neck on his front stoop or something.
As for June and her merry band of Handmaids, I dont see any way they can go back to their homes without being rounded up, questioned, tortured and probably murdered. S4 has to be them hiding in some underground and perhaps Nick finds them.
Generally speaking, I did enjoy this season... I like that we finally got a "happy ending", even though the happy ending has June shot and still in Gilead... Tragic, but happy...
The one thing that still bothers me is how much of a police state Gilead was painted in the first two seasons, and how much June was able to get away with in plain view (in many cases)... The things June did should have sent her to the wall or hung (like her Martha friend who she helped hang)... I wish there was a more realistic way of showing June strategically doing stuff in 100% in secret and in private to avoid the wall... It's really the only thing that bothered me this season...
When June was lying there wounded, watching the plane fly overhead, I wondered if the show was going all Lost on us, and they were all dead or in Purgatory or...
Just finished binging S3 and I agree with what most of you have said. Implausible story filled with lots of plot holes but HIGHLY intriguing. Some thoughts on this how how they move forward.
I wonder if the whole plotline of the Waterfords' arrest in Canada, is the beginning of the end for Gilead. I would imagine that the rest of the world will now turn hard against them. Two big advocates are gone. Another was murdered by June and now all the kids are gone. Maybe a lot of them will follow Lawrence's lead and start to have second thoughts of the whole thing. Maybe there can be enough of a resistance from the Americans in Canada to force action from the rest of the world. I think this will be a plotline of S4 (and I'm assuming it will be the last season).
How June survives this will be interesting. I'll bet she's on the run from Gilead. There might be enough of an underground set up now (between the Marthas and the rouge club owner/bartender (unsure of what he is exactly) that she might be able to work in the shadows. I don't think there's ANY chance she goes back to being a "normal" handmaid at this point.
I thought June's target for the escapees was just kids like Hannah, who were born pre-Gilead and have no actual link to anyone in Gilead. I didn't think they tried to save kids born of a handmaid and a commander. I thought that's what they were showing when June went through the files in Lawrence's basement/attic, whatever it was.
And speaking of Hannah, to me that's the one last unresolved piece from this year. Hannah has disappeared and I'm sure that will be June's focus for next season and her activities to get others out will be a means to that end.
Would be interesting if she's somehow underground (though clearly food and shelter are challenging in Boston winter). One note: not all the kids are gone, just a group of them. I hadn't considered them not trying to save kids born of a handmaid and a commander, like the case with Janine and her baby. Makes sense, especially as it seemed that all the kids on the plane were older.
Thinking about S4 and where the primary cast members are as of the end of S3, I think S4 has to be significantly different from a structural standpoint, because hardly any of the primary characters are still in Gilead.
These are the top listed characters in IDMb based on number of episodes:
June - Gilead
Serena - Canada
Fred - Canada
Aunt Lydia - Gilead
Rita - Canada
Janine - Gilead
Nick - On the front lines near Chicago
Alma - Gilead (although I'm not sure who she is)
Luke - Canada
Brianna - Gilead (although I'm not sure who she is)
Moira - Canada
Emily - Canada
Commander Lawrence - Gilead, but surely dead very soon
Either they'll have to introduce a whole bunch of new authority figures in Gilead, or S4 will no longer have June being subservient to the Gilead patriarchy.
I just got my copy of "The Testaments" the sequel to the original novel by Margret Atwood. Set 15 years after the events of the original novel (Season 1). It ought to be interesting to see how the inner workings of Gilead are between the series and the book, and if one informs the other.
I wonder what the original plan was to get all the kids on the plane from a truck? There would still be security.
I wanted June to shoot the guard where he stood but I guess it was smart to lead him away. But agreed, where the hell were the other guards? And what about the first guard that was hit with a rock?
Anyone else keep waiting for Nick to show up Deus ex machina style?
Soooo many implausiblities but still such a good story.
I can't forget the giant cross they made from the Washington Monument.
Really wishing I'd watched this season closer to the air date! I'll have to do better with S4.
It's super risky to reveal you're not a true believer. You never know who you can trust. It makes sense that she kept her cards close to her chest. I liked her line about studying for the MCATs. I thought she was going to bust out some first aid at some point.
They have to catch her first. I think June is going to stay underground after this.
That's part of the reason for leaving after dark: the kids are all in bed. Most parents don't check on their kids after they're in bed, especially if they have staff. They wouldn't know the kids were missing until morning.
I saw the MCAT Martha get shot. I'm not sure about the other one.
That was heartbreaking.
I was hoping the last person in the convoy was taking down the cloth strips but I don't remember if they shoed it or not.
The pre-Gilead kids were June's focus but you can't unring a bell. Once word got out to the Marthas that kids were getting out they wanted to save as many kids as possible. They love those kids.
Getting the others out wasn't a means to the end of getting Hannah out. June decided this season that saving as many kids as possible was her priority. It may end up that way, but it's not why she did it.
It was funny reading my earlier statement/question in this one. So much of my concerns/questions were addressed in the sequel novel "The Testaments". Ought to be interesting to see how they handle S4 in light of the novel.