The Expanse Season 5 SPOILERS

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  1. smbaker

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    My brain jumped to contrast the Naomi vacuum scene with the Leia vacuum scene from The Last Jedi. I felt one worked very well, while the other didn't work at all.

    I'm enjoying the Naomi family drama more in the TV series than I did in the books, mostly due to the strong performance by the actor playing Inaros.
     
  2. gschrock

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    I can definitely envision the guy they have playing Inaros as a cult leader, so I think they did a pretty decent job there.
     
  3. cwerdna

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    During the after show for this ep, they (maybe it was Ty) did say they don't do or don't like doing a lot of flashbacks during the show.

    Yeah, they don't seem to do all that many on the show, in general. My wild guess is that less than 1/3 of the eps have any flashbacks.

    It is so weird to see folks like the actors playing Drummer and Marco Inaros (e.g. from a recent after show) talking normally.

    was posted Dec 2019 so there are no spoilers if you've gotten thru at least season 4 and has Cara Gee in it.
     
  4. dianebrat

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    There was a shot of her exhaling in her jump from ship to ship, I gave them props for that detail.
     
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  5. Rob Helmerichs

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    I give them props for pretty much every detail involving space. They're very knowledgeable and careful in that regard.

    (It still bugs the heck out of me that they have the belters wearing magnetic boots on spaceships, but I know they have to do that to save on the FX of them floating in freefall all the time. And at least they have the clanking of the magnetic boots to explain why they're not floating.)
     
  6. robojerk

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    They should've gotten a a large jet like the one Universal borrowed from NASA to film the micro gravity scenes for the movie Apollo 13.
    Reduced-gravity aircraft - Wikipedia
     
  7. Rob Helmerichs

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    I doubt that would have done much to reduce costs!
     
  8. vertigo235

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    Why does it bother you? Most of the time the ships have gravity as they are traveling through space, the time that they are weightless is the exception.
     
  9. vertigo235

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    They always have to be ready and oriented for gravity as the drive is initiated.
     
  10. vertigo235

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    Now the part that bothers me is whenever Holden is drinking his coffee somehow the coffee pours out into his mouth as if there is gravity. This annoys me.
     
  11. Rob Helmerichs

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    Belters are going to stay out of gravity as much as they possibly can.

    Because gravity can kill them.
     
  12. vertigo235

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    The way the Epstein Drive works, there is no way around it. If they are traveling through space, they will have to deal with gravity.
     
  13. vertigo235

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    On that point though, the show has many inconsistencies surrounding how gravity affects the different sects.

    If we were to believe how everything works, then the belters and the Martians could never keep up with the Earthers in a pursuit. And the Earthers could get everywhere faster, that episode where Bobbie went to earth you would think she never experienced 1G gravity before.
     
  14. Rob Helmerichs

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    Right, but they're not going to use magnetic boots in zero G. They're used to floating...except on TV zero G is too expensive to imitate, so they have the clanking of the magnetic boots to show that it's zero G. Which makes some sense on Earth or Mars ships, but not so much on Belter ships.
     
  15. vertigo235

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    Yeah in the early season 1 episodes they made it a point to show how much more fragile Belters were, with elongated bodies and bones etc, unless they had some sort of surgery or something, but they have certainly abandoned that as time went on.
     
  16. JYoung

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    I wouldn't say that they completely abandoned it.
    Naomi tried to adapt to 1G via drug therapy and couldn't do it.
    Plus it was stated last season that a number of the Barbapiccola's passengers died on Ilus because they couldn't adapt to the planet's gravity.

    It's also an issue though because any Terran with a modicum of skill should be able to pulverize a Belter in a hand to hand encounter.
    (Although arguably, Amos does this already.)

    Bobbie has talked about how she's been conditioned to handle higher gravity though. I assume that the drug therapy was part of that training regiment.

    I also appreciated that they pointed out that people were wearing mag boots at Luna Station because I did have that "It's 1/6th the gravity" moment.
    (I also appreciated the slow motion pour of Avasarala's liquor.)

    Certainly production constraints have kind of pushed this from the forefront but I give them points for trying.

    I also like that Cyn's tool bag had a mag plate as well.
    (I'll miss him. He was interesting.)
     
  17. vertigo235

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    I noticed the liquor pour as well.
     
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    The issue isn't the magnitude of the net g-force of the combined main and maneuvering thrusters, but the direction. While the ship is turning, the direction of the force applied to the passengers changes. The chairs and the fluid injected into the passengers are only designed to protect them from high g-forces coming from a limited range of directions. So when the ship fires its maneuvering thrusters, the chairs rotate independently of the ship in order to keep the net force applied to the passengers within the acceptable range.

    Beyond that, having rotating chairs would be convenient for more casual trips. If you are accelerating at 1 G in open space, you might rotate them so that "down" is the bottom of the chair instead of the back. That way you are effectively sitting up rather than lying down.
     
  19. BitbyBlit

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    The surface tension of liquids can be used to direct them in a manner such that they act similar to drinking with gravity.

    A group of scientists developed a cup that can be used to drink liquids in zero-g:



    It was part of the ISSpresso machine.

    And this video shows what it looks like to drink out of in zero-g:



    Between the belters and the inners, I would agree. But those in the Martian military regularly train in 1G.

    Bobbie's issue on Earth was being outside for the first time. Up until then, she had only ever been in enclosed environments. Being in such an open space and exposed to direct sunlight was new to her.
     
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  20. john4200

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    No, it does not. I already explained that. The force on the passengers is always coming from the main engine, which is presumably attached to the hull so the chairs do not need to turn relative to the hull. The maneuvering thrusters only need to rotate the ship and make a negligible contribution to the thrust vector relative to the hull.
     
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