The Expanse Season 5 SPOILERS

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    Saturn_V

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    Alex is a minor presence in Book 6, Babylon's Ashes. I still wish they recast the character. (we've seen hints of the Alex/Bobbie best friends bond this season, and that's a big thing in the later books.)

    The fanthink predicts the Tycho Station security chief Bull de Baka will take the Rocinante's wheel in S6.

    They can pull a Discovery and recast Alex Kamar with Bull's actor: Jose Zuniga. Get the Texas drawl and you're in! :p
     
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    Episode 7 is out
     
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    Yawn. I want sci fi not soap opera. I don't care enough about mom, her kid and the bad guy. Nothing happened on Earth? 47 minutes I'll never get back.
     
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    I kinda feel the same way. I actually don't mind the Naomi storyline in principal, except it's taking valuable time where we could be seeing something else. If the season were 23 episodes, it would be fine. But I think we only have three episodes left(?), so her family drama, we just don't have time for that.
     
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    Still, ballsy move on Naomi's part at the end there.
    I don't have a problem with the family dynamics here although I do echo the concern about not enough episodes to address everything in a ten episode season.

    Is it just me or did that one effects shot of the Razorback make it look like a bomb pop?

    Alex: You were shot?
    Bobbie: Yeah, a lot.
     
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    Agree with the above. The Naomi plotline in general isn't really working for me, so this episode was just a lot of dead air.
     
  7. Saturn_V

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    I think three episodes is plenty to cover the remainder of Nemesis Games' plot.
     
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    I thought this episode was a little slow, too. I wanted Amos & Peaches, Avasarala, and more Bobbi! Less dysfunctional family. I did have kind of a heart-stopping moment at the end when Naomi was floating in space and I thought the show might have actually killed her off. (This show is just bold enough that it seemed possible.)

    But, I have complete faith in these writers. A slow episode usually sets things up for an intense and exciting next chapter, so I can't wait to see what's next.
     
  9. JYoung

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    BTW, how involved are Franck and Abraham in the actual writing for the show?
    I know that they are listed as Executive Producers and have some input but how much?
     
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    They're in the writers room. And as principal IP owners, they certainly have a lot of pull- just not final word.

    Watch the "Ty and That Guy" after shows.Franck strikes me as someone completely and actively involved in production, but only the nuts.and bolts of story, writing and cast.
     
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    Why did Cyn seem to die instantaneously but Naomi floated in space for a while. I saw that she gave herself some sort of an injection while in space but shouldn't she have been dead by then? Wouldn't her eyeballs freeze, at least?
     
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    YT's coverage of the show is a lot stronger this season. If you're looking for good (and thankfully brief) episode recaps, Pete Peppers is that guy.
    https://www.youtube.com/c/PetePeppers1


    He starts out recaps quoting from the novels, but doesn't spoil upcoming events.
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  13. Rob Helmerichs

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    That's the same super-blood-oxygen injection that saved the reporter when she had a little vacuum incident a few episodes ago.

    Or, as they call it in the biz, foreshadowing. ;)

    (As for Cyn, he didn't seem to be prepared for vacuum. You can survive for a short time if you know what you're doing, although it's not pleasant.)
     
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    But isn't it like -474 degrees in space? How would the injection counter that?
     
  15. Rob Helmerichs

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    As I said, you can survive for a brief time. Adding oxygen to your blood should extend that time a little more. (IIRC, the biggest problem is that if you have air in your lungs that will kill you when the air expands, and if you don't the lack of oxygen will kill you.)

    She was only in the vacuum for a matter of seconds...and even with the shot, it looks like it almost killed her.
     
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    Yeah, it's barely above absolute zero in space.... but the heat transfer is primarily radiative, with modest amount of cooling from skin evaporation, and that latter goes away pretty quickly. You normal lose about 100 W to the environment just standing around on earth. Floating in vacuum, you'll get 8-10x that loss... vacuum is actually a pretty good insulator in general.. From a freezing effect? It would be cold, and possibly a bit of frost nip, but that's nothing compared to, say, a brisk wind in a Minnesota winter.

    You won't be terribly happy after a minute or so of cruising through space, and actually being able to see may be a problem, but you aren't going to turn into a popsicle or anything.
     
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    I’ve always found it interesting how the primary temperature control task in space (even in LEO) isn’t keeping things warm enough—it’s trying to cool things down.

    As for the episode, I’m glad I watched. They had to spend time with the Marcos/Filip/Naomi angle. Until today, I always figured that Naomi abandoned her son to Marco. It left me feeling little desire to feel sympathy for her-she bolted, left her son with a terrorist, and mad a new life. I felt a little desire to space her myself. The backstory of her search and failure, along with near suicide, made her a more sympathetic character.
     
  18. Rob Helmerichs

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    I just read a novel where they have basically a warp drive for FTL, and when you're in warp, your ship is perfectly insulted from the outside...which means you have to drop out of warp from time to time to cool down.
     
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    As a book reader, I'm thinking that a lot of the whole Naomi/Marco/Philip emotional backstory came across better in print that it's currently faring in video. I don't recall them doing a lot of flashback scenes between the characters on the show, so they're having to insert LOTS of dialog to cover that ground which tends to slow the show down. I agree that it's ground that needs to be covered to propel the show forward, I just wish the execution was better.
     
  20. madscientist

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    I thought the episode was fine. I didn't mind that it was a little slower. I did miss checking in on Amos though. In the book, IIRC Filip doesn't realize Naomi actually tried to get to the other ship; he thinks she simply spaced herself and is dead. Here it looks like he's watching and sees her try to make it to the other ship.
     

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