The Expanse Season 5 SPOILERS

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  1. Rob Helmerichs

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    Of course it rarely makes the news when an actor (or athlete) behaves decently with fans...
     
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  2. Tony_T

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    “Dog bites man”
     
  3. dcheesi

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    Yeah, as much as I like the character, he doesn't really do much besides pilot. In a way the show runners kind of lucked out there.

    Another thing that seems lucky is that earlier in the season, they had already deviated from the books in one particular plot point, in a way that opened up the opportunity to get rid of Alex easily:
    In the books, Fred Johnson isn't murdered by the Inaros faction when they steal the sample; instead, he dies by G-force induced stroke during the climactic battle.

    ...At least, given that they reportedly had to post-edit Alex out of some final scenes, it seems likely that this other change was already in place before the need arose?
     
  4. mr.unnatural

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    While it may seem rare, it does actually happen. I once read when Keanu Reeves has his picture taken with female fans he puts his arm around them but never makes contact with their person and acts like a perfect gentleman. Lots of actors are courteous and respectful to fans and that's how it should be. It's the bad apples that tend to get the press. It's a case where no news is good news.
     
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  5. madscientist

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    Yeah a LOT of famous people are doing the "hover maneuver" these days. Seems safest for everyone involved. It's too bad there are so many dooshy guys out there who ruin even simple things like fan/celebrity meetings.

    On the other hand maybe they were "helping" us get ready for a new reality of fist- and elbow-bumps and waves from 6ft apart.
     
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    What was the point of Naomi keeping track of her treks into the void? The only explanation I could come up with was maybe to keep track of which junction boxes she had tried so far. But she kept doing it even after she figured out which one she needed to mess with.
     
  8. madscientist

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    My assumption was that every time she goes out she loses air from the ship. It was weird that nothing really ever came of that. But of course the main reason she did it is so that WE know how many times without them having to show every one :).

    My big question is, what kind of spacesuit doesn't have emergency lights embedded in it?!?!
     
  9. robojerk

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    I think the ship was stripped of anything that was valuable including batteries, but then again the suit should've been taken too.
     
  10. madscientist

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    Right, I mean, you'd think a spacesuit would have lights actually as part of the suit, so that it wouldn't be possible for them to float away or be knocked off. Or at least, that it would have lots of reflective material on it.
     
  11. Saturn_V

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    Different spacesuits for different environments. Even the ones NASA uses during launch aren't the same as the ones used for EVAs/spacewalks.
     
  12. robojerk

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    I think the suit she's in is just a pressure suit, meant to be worn in a space craft in case of loss of pressure like during a gun fight, and yes I'd agree there should be headlamps or something, how about you just imagine there's really tiny LEDs around the visor. There obviously was some way for them to find her floating out in the vastness of infinite space. The suit may not reflect light, but reflect other wave lengths that maybe would show up better on their radar, or some new futuristic equivalent to make lost crew stand out in case they get ejected.
     
  13. madscientist

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    I can't think of any reason for any kind of spacesuit to not have basic safety equipment such as lights and reflective material. Except maybe combat/stealth suits :).

    Whatever, I don't care that much, it just struck me when Naomi was floating around outside waving her arms that it was unrealistic that she wouldn't be more visible, even for a simple emergency pressure suit (really, you'd think an emergency suit would be even MORE visible).
     
  14. Saturn_V

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    SpaceX suit
    Boeing Blue Suit
    Exporation EV Mobility Unit

    You better call NASA and tell em they're doing it wrong.
     
  15. cwerdna

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    This was addressed in the Ty and that guy aftershow. Skip to about 1:10 of .

    Every time she went there, she would lose a bit of air from the portion of the ship with air. IIRC or I presume the rest of life support wasn't working in order to replenish the air and scrub the CO2.

    Also, at the aftershow noted, she eventually got worse and worse off due to less oxygen in the pressurized portion.
     
  16. madscientist

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    Fine, I guess to be pedantic we can add a new category where lights/reflectors wouldn't be missed: if your level of space-going technology and resources are so limited that there is no possibility of rescue regardless of how many lights/reflectors you have: if you're too far away to be seen without them you're gone so it doesn't matter.

    Personally I still think they should have them.
     
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    I agree on Amos--deep down he's a good person who will do anything (no matter how bad) for the people he cares about. He gets to be a more difficult character for me to enjoy when he's separated from his "family". To a certain extent, every character on the show seems to struggle there. This season (even more than last season) has everyone separated from each other, and none of them really "clicked" for me this season because of it. We saw some extended/surrogate families like Alex and Bobbie, Amos and Peaches (I know that's not her name, but I can never remember which Mao she is :) ), even Naomi and all of the belters under Marco. But none of those groupings really felt very strong.

    But I actually was catching up on this thread to ask a different question--does anyone else feel that Steven Strait is the weak link for actors on the series? In the show, his character is presented as this incredible kick ass leader, but Strait just never felt right for the role.
     
  18. madscientist

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    I don't think Holden is supposed to be a kick-ass leader. He kind of fell into to backwards; in fact he never really wants to be in charge of anything (except maybe on the Roci, for the other three main characters). He's really not a Type A person. Holden is a person who believes in always doing the right thing, even at expense of himself, and has a very strong idea of what the right thing is, from his upbringing. That causes people to want to follow him, or at least a certain type of person. He's usually not very comfortable with this.

    It's possible that this is made more clear in the books, than on the show.
     
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  19. Saturn_V

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    I don't think Strait's a bad actor. I thought the chaos he portrayed with Investigator Miller was top-notch. But he certainly doesn't lead the cast like a traditional sci-fi lead would. Maybe you're expecting a Shatner, Stewart or Olmos type lead. But the show's cast wasn't constructed with that archetype.
     
  20. PaulS

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    Initially, I didn't like his casting, but I've gotten used to him over the seasons. His portrayal is certainly different than it is on the page.

    The character as written isn't necessarily a great "leader" in the classic sense. He certainly has a knack for falling into pivotal situations. He also has a strong sense of trying to the right thing (at least from his perspective), and is willing to run headlong into certain danger to achieve what he thinks he needs to do (whch could be construed as stupidity, or a death-wish).
     

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