The Expanse Season 5 SPOILERS

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    cwerdna

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    TIL there have been different “after shows” than what’s up on YouTube on the Amazon Prime channel (Ty and that guy).

    On the X-Ray content for eps in at least S4 and S5, at least on iOS clients, under bonus content is another after show that’s 3-5 minutes long.

    It doesn’t seem to exist on their Roku 3, Apple TV 4K and Android TV/Google TV clients. At least on iOS you can’t cast those short after shows and they also block AirPlay from an iPad of that content.

    I've been going thru them backwards starting from end of S5. I'm now at the end of S4.
     
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    cwerdna

    cwerdna Proud Tivolutionary

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    Hmm... will have to take a look.

    The Expanse - formerly on SyFy, now an Amazon Original - Page 6 - My Nissan Leaf Forum and The Expanse - formerly on SyFy, now an Amazon Original - Page 6 - My Nissan Leaf Forum supposedly show the before and after in the bar.
     
  3. doom1701

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    I binged the last few episodes this week (I think I was three behind). I felt like the spent about 2 episodes too much on Naomi this season. I liked the dynamic between her, Marco, and their son, but after she left his ship, everything was repetition. If I heard that SOS call one more time I was going to have to mute the TV...

    It's very interesting how they wrote off Anvar. It was sudden, but well done. If we didn't know the backstory with the actor, I could totally see this being just how the story was supposed to unfold.

    Like last season, this season was good...but left me feeling like they should have done just a little more. Last season was too focused on the whiny bickering of everyone on the planet. This season was Naomi putting on and taking off her space suit for (what felt like) two full episodes. I wish we would have gotten more with Amos and Peaches, more about Marco's overall plan (were the "stealth rocks" that destroyed the battle ship near the gate ever even hinted at?), and I really wish we would have seen more of everyone as a team, rather than everybody seeming to have an individual story arc for the season.
     
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    Yes.
    In episode six or seven eight, Hard Vacuum, Marcos is looking at a display readout of the Rings and the ships guarding it.
    Lines are drawn towards the ships.
     
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  5. cwerdna

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    Over at The Expanse - formerly on SyFy, now an Amazon Original - Page 6 - My Nissan Leaf Forum, someone pointed to (starting at the 42 second mark) going over the battle sequences in the final ep.

    Wow. I hadn't realized that some of the ships taken out were due to rail guns. I thought torpedoes had gotten through. I also had no idea which ship was which. I wouldn't have been able to tell you the name of a Free Navy ship if shown a pic of it.

    In the above video, I noticed some shots seemed to have the angles reversed/mirrored. Perhaps it was intentional to prevent YouTube's automated anti-piracy scanning from blocking/taking down the video?
     
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    I'll be honest. The battle was done awesomely, but I did miss a lot of those details.
     
  7. jeremy3721

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    First half of season five was great and then it devolved to crap. I can’t watch another minute of Naomi. She’s a breathing disaster of a person. With Alex gone Amos is the only character I care anything about so I think I’m done with the show. The last four episodes were painfully hard to get through.
     
  8. dianebrat

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    ha! shows how much our respective mileage may vary, Amos is the one story I feel they could lose and I wouldn't miss him :D
     
  9. Saturn_V

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    Amos is really hard for me to root for. I appreciate the ass-kicking skill, but without a "Jiminy Cricket" character providing a moral compass, he'd be kicking puppies and kittens 24/7. He's Chaotic Evil with brief interludes.
     
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    I find that much of the personality, charm and deepness of character has been lost in the translation to the TV show. It's unfortunate, but I can sympathize with the show's writers. There's only so much you can squeeze into 50 minute episodes, and having characters' internal monologues doesn't really translate well to the screen. For as much as the characters talk about being a "family" on the show, it just doesn't feel like that to me. The show loses out on the more mundane, day-to-day stuff on the Roci that builds the depth of these relationships (which is also what I'd cut 1st in writing for the show).
     
  11. Rob Helmerichs

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    That's what makes him interesting to me. As he himself recently said, he wants to be a relatively decent person, but needs somebody to tell him what to do. On his own, he doesn't have a clue.

    I think he's more Chaotic Neutral, living in a world that keeps pulling him towards Evil. So he needs a Good character to pull him in the other direction. And being off the Roci has deprived him of that kind of influence.
     
  12. robojerk

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    Never read the books, but my take on Amos is he wants to be a good person and be someone others can look up to, however he always gravitates to some form of drama. If he were left alone to live some boring life he'd implode it by creating drama and then he'd be thrown away in some jail, at best.

    He's fortunate to have found this crew as he recognizes they have good intentions and good morals, but they always seem to be in the thick of some drama and his skill-set and personality of ass-whooping really comes in handy and allows him to let loose his 'evil side' or whatever you want to call it on those who oppose his good nature'd friends.
     
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    Amos has moments that he acts totally on his own, even among the crew of the Roci. Even when other characters are telling not to. When Amos' mind is set- no one can stop him. It's mildly cathartic when he goes off-script like that- beating a kid with canned chicken on Ganymede, or taking down an in-custody Murtry at the end of S4.

    But he's more like the barely leashed mad dog that Josephus Miller calls him out in S2. Yes, the character is compelling to watch. Just hard to get behind.
     
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    I'm not sure I agree with this. From what I can tell, if he were left alone he'd probably be perfectly happy with a boring life. It seems to me that he doesn't go looking for trouble. However when trouble comes along (and it often does) he has only one reaction and that's often an overreaction. He needs Naomi (and now Holden) to help him find a different reaction, or to tone it down.

    It's possible my views of Amos are colored by his characterization in the books.
     
  15. jeremy3721

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    I’m still pissed about Alex. Best character on the show lost to “accusations” of inappropriate behavior I guess.

    by the time Naomi jumped out of the ship I was wishing I could remotely detonate one of those explosive charges myself. It’s a good sign that a show isn’t for me when I’m rooting fir one of the main heroes of the show to just die already.
     
  16. cwerdna

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    From what I've seen like at Why Alex Won't Be In Expanse Season 6: Cas Anvar Controversy Explained, they are pretty serious allegations and supposedly, Alcon Entertainment investigated and decided it was legit and/or serious enough to can him.
     
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    No need to add scare-quotes on accusations. This one wasn't that close.

    It's definitely bad that the actor behaved so horribly, but not a great loss for the show; Alex was the least interesting character with the least interesting arc, and definitely the least important to the plot of the main group.
     
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    Alex wasn’t accused of anything — the actor playing his is.

    The writers should have done a “Darrin” with Alex.
     
  19. madscientist

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    If it had been an other character than Alex, they maybe would have done a "Darrin". But as I say, the character isn't really that important to the main plotline... they can bring anyone in to fly the Roci. Having him killed off adds some realism (although I'm sure they wish they had a bit more opportunity to handle it differently) that flying in space is dangerous, and solves the real-world problem without requiring the wink-and-nod in the show.

    That said, I'm not a fan of the character they seem to have chosen to replace him. But I can see how he could add new elements to the crew.
     
  20. mr.unnatural

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    Sounds like Cas Anvar went to the Harvey Weinstein School of Etiquette. It seems like anyone mildly successful in Hollywood (or professional sports for that matter) thinks they're entitled to sex from every fan they meet. Whatever happened to good behavior?
     

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