The Boys (Amazon) - Season 1 *spoilers*

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  1. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Well-Known Member

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    Ellicott...
    Hmmm, sounds like a manufacturing defect. I guess you'd rather pick apart plot holes than sit back and enjoy the show. I suppose in some dark corner of the universe that can be considered fun. I will admit that I do like to spot continuity issues in TV and movies, but I try not to let it interfere with my viewing pleasure. Probably one of the easiest to spot is the magic glass that changes fluid levels constantly when the person it sits in front of never even takes a sip. That and articles of clothing that inexplicably move about the person for no reason. However, trying to apply logic to any TV show or movie is an exercise in futility and a complete waste of time. It's called poetic license. The writer will bend the laws of physics to obtain the desired cinematic effect no matter how ridiculous it may seem. If it bothers you then I would suggest either changing the channel or finding something else to occupy your time.
     
  2. Rob Helmerichs

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    Only bad writers. Good writers write, well, good stories that make internal sense.
     
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  3. jsmeeker

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    The writing of the scene with Homelander and the plane was good. The point of it wasn't really to save people. The point was to get the military to hire Vought to provides supes to them. If Homelander carried the plane to safety, it wouldn't have been as good as what really happened. :)
     
  4. mr.unnatural

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    Ellicott...
    So true, but when it comes to Sci-Fi many of them like to rewrite the laws of the universe (quite literally in some cases). One instance that sticks in my mind is when they wrote a virus to inject into the alien spacecraft computer system in Independence Day to shut down their shields. It made the movie entertaining, but utterly unbelievable. It's things like this that I try not to dwell on or else it would completely ruin a good time. I'm far too critical about things in real life. I see movies and TV as escapist entertainment and I'd rather not ruin the moment by worrying about whether or not the story is factual or makes sense. Bending the rules doesn't necessarily make you a bad writer. It just means you have an imagination. Let's face it, every movie about a superhero bends the rules beyond the point of breaking yet we are mostly entertained by them. If you're going to nit-pick everything you see then you're missing the point.
     
  5. Rob Helmerichs

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    I'm not annoyed about movies bending the rules of reality. I'm annoyed by movies bending their own rules...or rather, movies that can't be bothered to HAVE rules. And I'm especially annoyed by science fiction writers (and viewers) who don't think that sci-fi NEEDS rules. They think sci-fi is easier than regular fiction because you can do whatever you want to, whereas when it's done well it's harder than regular fiction, because you have to effectively create all the rules that are already there in reality for regular fiction. E.g., in Law & Order you don't have to think about how a gun works, because you already know (or can look it up on Wikipedia). But in sci-fi, if you have a blaster you can't just let it do whatever you want; you have to figure out how it works--not the technical details, but the effects it has--and what it can (and cannot) do.

    Otherwise, you suck as a writer. And sadly, too many movie and TV writers who try to write sci-fi really suck at it.
     
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  6. ej42137

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    Amen brother!

    And not just SF, but Fantasy too needs consistent rules. For that matter, mundane fiction also suffers when, as is all too common, it doesn't have consistent rules.
     
  7. Philosofy

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    So you didn't care for "rebuild the Great Wall of China" vision?
     
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    jeremy3721

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    It was kind of jarring watching Elizabeth Shue’s brains somewhat slowly burned out through her eyeballs. Like if they’d have prolonged the burn through another few seconds I might have trouble sleeping tonight.
     
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    scooterboy

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    This is the internet. If she gets mad enough about it, she might loose her mind and go rouge.
     
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    Hcour

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    Got Prime a few days ago, started watching this. Love the dark humor, looks like a fun show.
     
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    ej42137

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    Yeah, watch the last episode and tell me if you're still laughing!
     
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    I just started this a couple of days ago and am about 4 episodes in. Love it so far! At the end of episode 1 I figured out why I like it... Eric Kripke (of Supernatural fame) is one of the creators/writers! If I had known this I would have been on it right away.
     
  13. wprager

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    For some stupid reason I mistook Kripke for the guy who did Heroes. Initially I thought maybe this is how gritty Heroes would have been if it wasn't on network tv.
     
  14. mattyro7878

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    While we are at it, why did Translucent have to die? Besides being a good story starter, the other members of the 7 deserved to have c-4 up the bum a lot more than Translucent.
     
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    Not couldn't...didn't. He commented that " the nose dips" and some other hassle when it comes to saving a plane. He also wasn't willing to make the trips to save everyone. It was that scene where I realized he is not a hero.
     
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    This didn't bother me given the cinematic historical nod to "War of the Worlds"/simple human virus that defeats the alien invasion.
     
  17. mr.unnatural

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    Ellicott...
    That's actually believable considering it's biological. A computer virus only works if it's coded to the specific operating system. I sincerely doubt that the aliens in Independence day were using Windows or other earthly operating system.
     
  18. Fixer

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    FWIW, the creator of Heroes, Tim Kring, has a new show on USA called "Treadstone". It is based on Robert Ludlum's "Bourne Universe". Like the films, it is very heavy on action sequences.
     
  19. Craigbob

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    It's based on the cinematic version of Ludlum's "Bourne" Universe, which as only a passing resembalence to the literary version.
     

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