The Boys (Amazon) - Season 1 *spoilers*

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  1. Aug 16, 2019 #41 of 148
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Actually it does, since killing Translucent wasn't a passing, incidental act of no importance (that would be their decision to make invisible skin impervious, which also makes no sense but doesn't really matter); it was the central element of the plot of two episodes (the one where they kill him, and the one where they deal with the aftermath). And it doesn't fit in with the logic of the "facts" not in our world, but AS PRESENTED.

    Sorry, it was just bad writing. And I'm not one of those people who excuses bad writing if it's science fiction or fantasy.
     
  2. Aug 16, 2019 #42 of 148
    ej42137

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    I'm sorry, I must have missed the part where missing a whole super-skin and instead having bits of it was a key element. I'll have to watch it again, because I thought the point was killing the sup with C4 up his bum, not the condition of his skin afterwards. Thanks for cluing me in!
     
  3. Aug 16, 2019 #43 of 148
    Beryl

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    I thought the insides came out of orifices. I wasn’t as observant but will rely on the eagle eyes among us.
     
  4. Aug 16, 2019 #44 of 148
    Rob Helmerichs

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    No, the key element was killing Translucent. Since it was such a key element of the plot, good writing required that it be done in at least a vaguely logical method. But since you prefer making excuses for bad writing to logic, I'll just let it go.
     
  5. Aug 16, 2019 #45 of 148
    mlsnyc

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    The way Translucent was killed is fine for me who will not-so-proudly admit to being a science dummy. Attach C4 to the outside, explosion may ding his carbon skin but the pressure goes outward and dissipates, barely causing him any damage. Up his bum, explosion liquifies his insides and kills him instantly. The pressure of the explosion has nowhere to go, builds up to the point it destroys the structural integrity, and his body is blown to bits. Whether or not any of that is plausible is on the whole irrelevant to me since I enjoyed S1 a lot and cannot wait for S2.

    Also: The Boys Producer Explains Why [SPOILER]'s Explosive Death Defied Logic
     
  6. Aug 16, 2019 #46 of 148
    jsmeeker

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    It fits fine. The TV series likes the blood and guts stuff. This got us some good blood and guts.

    But I guess Translucent will be this universe's Snap/Blip.
     
  7. Aug 16, 2019 #47 of 148
    ej42137

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    Thanks for the link. It is very satisfying.

    I read Larry Niven's "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex" not long after he wrote it. I also have a pretty good understanding of physics. Any superhero story is rife with these inconsistencies, the issue of Translucent's skin is just one of many that most people don't spot because they took their last science class in high school. What would be "bad writing" would be to bog down the story with explanations for every little detail; I don't think that would be watchable. "Good writing" is to use it judiciously in service of the story, as in the dialog between Homelander and Queen Maeve on the doomed plane.

    (Examples: Translucent should logically die in a car crash when his brain rattles around within his skull. A shock wave from C4 applied externally should turn his body to jelly, even if his integument remains intact. Contrarywise, if his internal organs are somehow protected from shock, then a C4 enema shouldn't have killed him. One might expect the easiest obvious way to kill him would be carbon monoxide poisoning, but obviously he was protected from that happening by the Rule of Funny.)
     
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  8. Aug 18, 2019 #48 of 148
    MacThor

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    It's like Armageddon. You can't hit the asteroid with a nuke; it will have no effect. But if you shove the nuke into an orifice, you can blow it up from the inside.
    Or something.
     
  9. Aug 18, 2019 #49 of 148
    Rob Helmerichs

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    I go with the producers' explanation. It makes no sense, but it looks cool so they did it anyway. ;)
     
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  10. Aug 19, 2019 #50 of 148
    uncdrew

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    Agreed on both.

    My immediate thought was to drown him. But after he blew up why was the skin in pieces? Should have had the skin contain the explosion but destroy his insides. Perhaps some items shoot out his eye and nose holes. :D
     
  11. Aug 19, 2019 #51 of 148
    gweempose

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    My first thought was that they should bury him in concrete and then drop him in the ocean.
     
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  12. Aug 19, 2019 #52 of 148
    Gregor

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    Really enjoyed this, burned thru the episodes in a few days. Thought the changes in Hughie were pretty interesting as time went on.
     
  13. Aug 19, 2019 #53 of 148
    Beryl

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    I didn’t understand why they didn’t keep him covered in flour while he was in that cage. Didn’t they want to see him at all times?
     
  14. Aug 19, 2019 #54 of 148
    uncdrew

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    It was interesting how they'd go into the room with the cattle prod (or gun, saw, drill, explosive) and seem to have no problem hitting him.

    But I get it. They probably did have some system in place that just didn't need to be seen on screen.
     
  15. Aug 19, 2019 #55 of 148
    Amnesia

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    Or paint or something. Especially before they fired that special bullet.
     
  16. Aug 21, 2019 #56 of 148
    gossamer88

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    I finished it last night and enjoyed it...for the most part.

    Homelander was the best thing on the show. The actor who portrayed him was great.
    I hated the A-train character. He was a mess and and poorly written.
    Starlight was great and less predictable than I expected her character to be.
    Karl Urban was channeling Logan. Which was fine. But he survived way too many attempts on his life (as did most actually).
    Hope to see more of Kimiko and Frenchie.
    More of Queen Maeve too please.
    Did anyone think the actor who portrayed Hughie was Michael Shannon's son? LOL
    When Mesner appeared my wife said "oh wow Cher's son" (not kidding) LOL

    Question, or did I miss something...how did Homelander know Becca and his son was still alive?
     
  17. Aug 21, 2019 #57 of 148
    ehusen

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    When the story about the birth differed between Shue's character and the retired scientist, Homelander went back to the scientist and "squeezed" the truth out of him.
     
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  18. Aug 25, 2019 #58 of 148
    Philosofy

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    Why didn't they kill A-Train when they had the chance? And, did I miss an episode, but one ended with Starlight being killed, and the next had no mention of it.
     
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    gweempose

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    Starlight was killed? I don't recall that at all.
     
  20. Aug 25, 2019 #60 of 148
    jsmeeker

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    She wasn't killed.

    At least, not in the TV show. No idea about the comics
     

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