The Boys (Amazon) - Season 1 *spoilers*

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  1. Aug 2, 2019 #1 of 119
    robojerk

    robojerk Well-Known Member

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    I enjoyed it, wasn't great but it entertained me enough to be upset when the season ended on that big reveal (that was pretty obvious going in.)
     
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    Beryl

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    Yeah, it was predictable.

    There are a significant number of “B” actors in this series but I was a little surprised to see Elizabeth Shue killed off.
     
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    Rob Helmerichs

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    Although she's probably the one they can least afford on a long-term basis!

    The ending is VERY different from the way that situation played out in the comics...but I doubt even Amazon would want to do what the comic did (the baby killed its way out of the womb...which actually does a better job of explaining the intensity of Butcher's hatred of ALL supes).
     
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    Amnesia

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    Talking about babies, did Butcher just kill Shue's baby?
     
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    heySkippy

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    Seems likely. I was surprised, but happy, to find Starlight was one of the bulletproof group.
     
  6. Aug 2, 2019 #6 of 119
    robojerk

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    Yeah.. He straight up murdered a baby, unless Homelander saved it, but he loathed it.
     
  7. Aug 2, 2019 #7 of 119
    Rob Helmerichs

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    He saved Butcher because he wanted to take revenge on him.

    I guess taking revenge on a baby just isn't that much fun...
     
  8. Aug 3, 2019 #8 of 119
    MacThor

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    Do we believe Homelander that the sex with Becca was consensual?
    I think he probably saved the baby, too. Best way to save Butcher was to throw himself on Stillwell and absorb the blast. Of course he could have just shielded Butcher.

    Were we supposed to read anything into the look of horror when Mesmer "read" Butcher? Or was it as simple as he saw that Butcher was about to kill him?
     
  9. Aug 3, 2019 #9 of 119
    Beryl

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    The video of her exiting the room doesn’t indicate sex was consensual. Moreover, Butcher’s account of her sitting on that bench for four hours indicates a traumatic experience.

    How can anyone refuse a guy who can easily kill you? It is no different from inmate saying “no” to a prison guard.

    Homelander can’t die too soon for me.
     
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    Amnesia

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    I agree---she looked too disheveled. If it were consensual, she would have straightened her clothes, etc before leaving...
     
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    wprager

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    It was very clearly rape.

    I like Homelander. A very interesting villain. I'll miss his very weird relationship with Shue.

    I felt The Deep was mostly there for comic relief. Those two scenes (dolphin and lobster getting killed add he's trying to rescue them) felt oddly out of style with the test of the very adult content.
     
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    gweempose

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    I'm hoping The Lamplighter comes out of retirement in season 2. He seems like he'd be a really cool superhero. :)
     
  13. Aug 4, 2019 #13 of 119
    madscientist

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    Finished the last 3 episodes last night... overall I really enjoyed the show. I do wish there had been SOME amount of season-ending closure but it seemed like everything was still up in the air so that was disappointing.

    It didn't occur to me that Becca was pregnant until they admitted it. I figured she had complained to Vought about the rape (IMO it was intended to be rape) and they had gotten rid of her. Once they said she was pregnant it was clear that the baby hadn't really died in childbirth though.

    Very interesting that it was Homelander who was distributing the V to terrorists around the globe. He was definitely a hard to pin down character.

    I couldn't really understand why the supes didn't just quit and form their own company where they were in charge. I couldn't see any hold that Vought had on them, since they clearly don't have to be restocked with V on an ongoing basis. Sure, Vought is good at the marketing side but the supes are the jewels and there's no reason they couldn't have exerted more influence, or else started a rival company and hired equally talented people.

    If this were to happen in real life, where the supes were the only thing standing between the U.S. and supe terrorists, I'm pretty sure that the government wouldn't simply let Vought continue to run the show. They'd take over in the name of national security, or maybe just draft the supes into the military so they were no longer employees of Vought. They're not technologies, they're U.S. citizens! I sort of thought that that would be one of the last episode actions, showing that Vought got too far out over their skiis and lost their assets.

    I also wonder what will happen once the existence of V becomes more widely known: too many people know about it for it to be kept secret much longer. Once everyone knows that the supes were not chosen by God (or by genetics) but rather created I wonder how people will respond. They were created as babies so in that way it's still like genetics: not their choice.
     
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    madscientist

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    Oh, I also wonder how many of the seven know about V. Clearly Homelander knows since he was raised in the lab, and he told A-Train so he would help deliver the V. Starlight obviously didn't know before, so who else? Doubtful they would have told Deep. Translucent knew at least enough to point them to Popclaw and suggest there was some drug use involved IIRC. What about Maeve?
     
  15. Aug 4, 2019 #15 of 119
    cheesesteak

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    I thought this series was excellent. I can nitpick stuff like The Deep was a waste of tv electrons other than blackmailing Starlight to do what she did and Queen Maeve was really underused. But other than those two quibbles, it was very well done.

    I thought Elizabeth Shue did a great job as Stillwell but I'm pretty sure that she can be replaced by another unscrupulous corporate bad guy from central casting.

    I guess we'll find out in season 2 but I doubt that Homelander killed Stillwell's baby. I'd bet my farm and your farm that Homelander was the baby daddy. I have zero idea of what happened in the comic book series that I never heard of but my hypothesis is that he saved the baby because he figured out that he was the father or he finds out later that he killed his son and it drives him mad.

    All in all, this was an excellent series.
     
  16. Aug 7, 2019 #16 of 119
    Cainebj

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    This is one of those instances where I LOVE that I knew absolutely NOTHING about what this show was about.

    I turned on the first episode and thought - OH - a superhero show - great I'll watch.
    As it was slowly revealed that the super were the villains, I nearly fell off my chair - especially when Deep dropped his pants in the first episode.

    I thought it was great - I binged the whole series in 2 days.
     
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    SWFan

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    I enjoyed the show, looking forward to a season 2.
     
  18. Aug 8, 2019 #18 of 119
    robojerk

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    I think Homelander may have saved the baby too but not for anything good mind you. To experiment with the drug on the baby.
     
  19. Aug 8, 2019 #19 of 119
    Test

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    That's what I thought the big season ending reveal would be, after the blast the baby is unharmed because he's just like his dad (Homelander).

    Also, I'm not to sure about Butchers wife being raped. She came out of the room all disheveled sure, but nothing that hasn't been seen in a thousand tv shows where someone just left a room, closet, car or other location after getting busy. She also looked shocked because maybe it was her first time with a super and from the earlier super club scene they're willing and able to do things normal people can't in the sack. I can lean either way on this one.
     
  20. Aug 9, 2019 #20 of 119
    hummingbird_206

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    I enjoyed the season and look forward to season 2.

    Every time Stillwell mentioned Edgar I wondered if we'd see him. I was happy that we finally saw Edgar in the last ep and I was thrilled when he was played by Giancarlo Esposito. Hopefully we'll get more of Edgar next season!
     

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