The Borgias: The Poisoned Chalice/The Assassin (Premiere) 4/03/11

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  1. Apr 5, 2011 #1 of 25
    astrohip

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    I liked this. I know nothing about this time period, so I can't speak as to history vs what we saw. But I enjoyed it. The story moves along, the characters are interesting and well played, the sets are rich.

    I like the eldest son, Cesare Borgia. For a guy who only reluctantly follows the path his father has laid out for him, he is both good at it and seems to enjoy it. I also like the assassin, Micheletto. He plays that part superbly. Has a strange physical look to him.

    The daughter, Lucrezia. Is that the famous Lucretia whose name I vaguely recognize (Lucretia McEvil)? The relationship between Cesare & Lucrezia... almost creepy. Ok, full-on creepy.

    So there was a time you could bribe your way blatantly to the papacy, eh? Lucky times have changed.:)
     
  2. Apr 5, 2011 #2 of 25
    Amnesia

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    Yes, Lucrezia has become infamous...but she looks so sweet and innocent!
     
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    I wasn't sure I'd like this but was pleasantly surprised. I was going to cancel showtime but after watching this have decided to keep it.
     
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    astrohip

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    The exterior shots of St. Peter's look very different than today. Is that realistic? Is most of what we recognize today more recent than 1492?
     
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    getbak

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    Yes, it was completely rebuilt starting in the early 16th Century.
     
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    Sounds good, I will wait impatently for the DVD or streaming on Netflix.
     
  7. Apr 7, 2011 #7 of 25
    Cainebj

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    I was a little disappointed.

    The Tudors showed how to do period drama modernly and I was expected this to be more like that.

    The Borgias is doing the opposite.
    I fell asleep twice.
     
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    Anubys

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    whew...I'm glad you corrected yourself, but that is the definition of full-on creepy!

    is this a mini-series or a long-term show?
     
  9. Apr 9, 2011 #9 of 25
    Rob Helmerichs

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    It's an ongoing series, assuming the ratings and/or buzz hold.
     
  10. Hoffer

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    Watching the show now.

    I love how they have to feel up his twig and berries to make sure he's a man before naming him Pope.
     
  11. Anubys

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    and I learned a new word: Simony (had to turn on CC to figure out what the heck they were screaming).
     
  12. IJustLikeTivo

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    And this is somehow worse than buying indulgences?
     
  13. Anubys

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    I have no idea what this means :confused:
     
  14. IJustLikeTivo

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    In the Catholic church, you used to be able to effectively buy sins. Google it. If was basically a get out of sin for money deal. Like being rich in modern america. Steal millions go for very short time to prison with tennis courts. Steal $100 of crack cocaine, go to jail at a supermax for 10 years.
     
  15. IJustLikeTivo

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    And, at the time she was supposed to be about 12. Amusing that the actress playing her is 23.
     
  16. Rob Helmerichs

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    But it was never legal under church law. Indulgences were supposed to be earned, not bought.
     
  17. Anubys

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    I'm very anti-religion but I this is one that I can stand behind! :D
     
  18. IJustLikeTivo

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    I'd be guessing as I am not a practicing Catholic, but I have to imagine buying the papacy is not legal either. ;-)
     
  19. Unbeliever

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    And Farnese is supposed to be 15 (actress is 28) when Rodrigo took her in as mistress #2, and Cesare is 18 (actor is 26) when he becomes Cardinal.

    Edit: If next week is the wedding to Sforza, that would make Lucrezia 13.

    --Carlos V.
     
  20. Unbeliever

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    Hmm.... I wasn't involved in the Tudors threads, what are the spoiler rules for stuff that's already spoiled by history?

    --Carlos V.
     

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