The Americans, "The Summit" S06 E08

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  1. Rob Helmerichs

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    Maybe...but she seemed legitimately disturbed that the Center wants to kill the Russian who is trying to make everybody safer.

    Granted, from the Soviet perspective Gorby was trying to weaken the USSR. But for whatever reason, she seemed to buy into the idea that nuclear disarmament is a good thing, and thus that Phillip's people are working towards a good goal, and her people towards an evil one.

    It seems to me that this would have better happened over a period of time instead of a few hours; her transition from mindless killing machine to woman of conscience seemed...abrupt. But I think that's really the direction they're heading (although where it will take us, I don't know).
     
  2. zalusky

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    Most likely but they continue to go in directions that surprise me. I suppose they could finally both flip to Stan. I just hope beyond reason they don’t leave Paige out there as a future spy. There is no way the FBI could believe she or her brother are clean growing up in a murderous family.
     
  3. gossamer88

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    Probably because Phillip got to her "not being human".
     
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  4. TIVO_GUY_HERE

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    Do dead lady has a mouth full of paint?
     
  5. Hank

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    Not paint. Puke.

    Elizabeth just used a (clean) paintbrush to make her gag on her own vomit so any forensic analysis would look like that's how she died. No choking, no strangulation, etc.
     
  6. Rob Helmerichs

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    No, it was a clean brush. Elizabeth just used it to induce vomiting, then closed her mouth so she'd choke on it.
     
  7. zalusky

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    I was thinking about the actress having to do that scene. I know laying on my back with a mouthful of green slime even if it was in a bag and then exploded would be difficult. She was having to breathe making the gagging sounds. How does she not aspirate a bunch of it?
     
  8. jsmeeker

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    Just two episodes left? Man... I am gonna miss this show. It's so good. Another great episode.


    Is Elizabeth really flipping that easily?

    Thanks for clearing up the paint brush thing. I too thought I was seeing paint.
     
  9. thewebgal

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    2 episodes left - wow!
    And then its replaced with the "Paige the Junior spy" show?
     
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  10. Rob Helmerichs

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    In which we learn Henry has been a sleeper agent since before the series began, and in fact outranks Claudia at the Center!
     
  11. Hank

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    I was thinking the exact same things. They possibly did lots of very short takes and edited them together.
     
  12. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    She didn't transition from a mindless killing machine to a woman of conscience. She's always been on Team USSR. She just found out that the people who have been giving her orders want to stage a coup and overthrow Team USSR. So all this time she's been thinking that the Centre and Gorbachev are on the same page. And now that she learns they are not, she's more loyal to the Party than to the Centre.
    1. Lots of takes of the struggling with nothing in her mouth.
    2. A few takes where the only thing they film is the vomit scene.
    3. Sound effects for the gagging.
    4. Edit

    Did it bother anyone else that the painting Elizabeth selected and took from the house was not the same one that she had in the garage and burned?
     
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  13. Rob Helmerichs

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    Yes. So from mindless killing machine (i.e., just follows orders) to woman of conscience (i.e., actually thinks about what's best for her country, and decides what to do on that basis, regardless of what she's ordered to do).
     
  14. markb

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    So Renee is one step closer to a job with the FBI. I can't imagine where they're going with that in just two more episodes, but I still think the writers must be up to something.
     
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  15. ej42137

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    The obvious thing would be that she is revealed to us as yet another long-term sleeper agent putting herself in place as the series closes, with a final scene of her and Granny in collusion. We'll just have to see how it plays out.
     
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  16. Tony_T

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    I hope Renee is not a sleeper Agent.
    Stan won't look good living next to, and being friends with P+E, but living with one? They'll think Stan is with the USSR.

    …Hey!!! Maybe Stan is with the USSR!!! ;)
     
  17. Sparky1234

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    2 episodes left to end this. Hope America wins!
     
  18. kar74

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    Yes, that was driving me crazy. I thought it was just me.
     
  19. Steveknj

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    My take was that she is conflicted that there's warring factions in the USSR and that they've always been taught to be loyal to leader and party. She even said as much to Claudia, and Claudia said that we are all party (something like that). If she was doing what was said above, she would have went through with killing Nesterenko.
     
  20. Steveknj

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    Or, because of his friendship with Stan, he was recruited by the FBI to spy on his parents. He knows their secrets and is secretly meeting with Stan at school.
     

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