The Americans S1E6 Trust Me OAD 3/6/13

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  1. loganasu

    loganasu I'm a lurker

    Jan 17, 2005


  2. MikeCC

    MikeCC TiVotee

    Jun 19, 2004
    Of course he said he'd been set up. He knows he did not do the acts he's is accused of, and he knows somebody planted evidence.

    But I do not think he suspects the woman. How would she have he means to plant diamonds in the tea?

    He could just as easily suspect the Soviet who's running the embassy investigation---those two have clashed before. Paranoia is a way of life in that career, so the doomed Rezident might guess his embassy rival set him up to climb further up the KGB hierarchy.
  3. fmowry

    fmowry Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2002
    Baltimore, MD
    And he is with a new girl who is way out of his league who decides to start servicing him every way possible right before this all goes down. :rolleyes:

    OK, you believe what you want.
  4. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    He makes a good point, though...she could not have planted the diamonds. At the very least, that complicates things in terms of trying to figure out who's framing him.
  5. tiams

    tiams New Member

    Apr 19, 2004


    I say the Rezident knows it was Nina that set him up because she had access to his office and he knows she was too hot to be having sex with him for any other reason. You can disagree of course.

    Yes the Russians think they have their mole, but the Rezident knows the real mole is Nina.

    Exactly what I was saying. You said it even better.

    He knows that if she is the mole she has help from the F.B.I. so it would be no problem for her.
  6. Bob Coxner

    Bob Coxner Active Member

    Dec 1, 2004
    I disagree. I think he may have had a suspicion as he's being led out but it was nothing more than that. What would have been her motive (in his eyes) and how could she have access to so many diamonds? If anything, he would have thought she was acting under the direction of someone else and therefore it would be useless to point a finger at her. No one else would have believed him anyway.
  7. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

    Mar 10, 2003
    New Jersey
    The funny thing about the Cold War. I lived through the latter stages, from the Viet Nam War until it ended, and I NEVER felt that the US was in any immediate danger. I figured both the Russians and us had enough nukes to blow up each other several times over. At least by the late 60s it seemed to me that we were fighting our wars by proxy (Viet Nam for us, Afghanistan for the Soviets) and there was no thread of nukes in any of those places. Sure there were a couple of flare ups, like in Czechoslovakia. In many respects we kept each other in check. I find it interesting that we were attacked in this country only after the Cold War ended. If you watch this show, you kind of get the feeling that both sides thought that the thread was imminent. Behind the scenes maybe there was more of a threat than the public ever saw.
  8. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Fishers, IN
    And I will continue to disagree. He was extremely arrogant and arrogant men always think they're more attractive to hot women than they really are....
  9. SeanC

    SeanC ECT

    Dec 30, 2003
    And are very unlikely to believe that a beautiful woman took advantage of them.
  10. MikeCC

    MikeCC TiVotee

    Jun 19, 2004
    This. So much this.

    For him to suspect Nina, he would have to be willing to admit he made a mistake, and that he was not as alluring and powerful as he imagined.

    Because he had an confrontational and adversarial history with the embassy investigator hunting for the mole, and because the hiddden diamonds could not have been planted by the woman, it may be easier for the accused Rezident to suspect someone other than Nina.
  11. kilcher

    kilcher New Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    Eh, I couldn't tell if he knew it was her or not, I think they left it that way on purpose. No point in dragging that story out any further either way.
  12. tiams

    tiams New Member

    Apr 19, 2004
    He knows Nina is the mole. By definition she is working with the F.B.I. She didn't have to plant the diamonds herself. He knows the F.B.I. has the ability to easily do that part of the set up for her. She did her part and he knows the F.B.I. did their part when he gets the phone message from an American telling him another place to buy tea.
  13. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Fishers, IN
  14. hummingbird_206

    hummingbird_206 Retired

    Aug 22, 2007
    Valley of...
    Thank you!
    I couldn't tell, either. I hope that part of the story isn't over.
  15. vman41

    vman41 Omega Consumer

    Jun 18, 2002
    Henry Kissinger's position is that power is the best aphrodisiac.
  16. bobino

    bobino Member

    Jul 24, 2002
    In his case, is there any evidence this was true?
  17. Mr. Soze

    Mr. Soze Back by popular demand

    Nov 1, 2002
    The 75006...
    Being an Englishman, I am amused by the assumed names Philip and Elizabeth.
  18. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    Heh, that slipped right past me...
  19. MikeAndrews

    MikeAndrews Registered abuser

    Jan 17, 2002
    Yeah. We gotta guess that Visili will have figured out that it was his squeeze that set him up, but she'll only be at risk if they believe anything he says.

    That was a surprise. I noticed on first viewing that they were manhandling a stunt double, though. :rolleyes:

    In the previews they have Mags saying, "We need to make amends." or somesuch.
  20. Marco

    Marco Loyal Little

    Sep 19, 2000
    Capital of...
    It's probably not that easy for the FBI to set up the KGB Rezident in real life.

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