The Americans "Munchkins' OAD 5/18/16

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  1. Regina

    Regina I've got Jewbs!

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    As I said before...now for the last time...
    Goodnight John-Boy :(
     
  2. john4200

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    I was surprised how badly they handled that approach to Gaad. It seems obvious that they should have started out by sending just one person to him in a public place, just to talk for a few minutes, to see if he is disaffected enough to consider working for them.

    But to send three guys into his hotel room in a threatening way was just foolish. Either kidnap him quickly, or approach him gently. Don't threaten him. I guess all their competent spies are in the US.
     
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  3. Cainebj

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    I thought the Gad scene came completely outta nowhere... no build up and then very short for such a big event...
     
  4. brebeans

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    I agree, sort of . The fact that Gaad was still in the "previously, on The Americans" segments still had him involved in some way.

    I do think the Russians should have entered, put out the proposal, if possible and then he could have run, attacked, etc. Let's face it. There was no way out of there for him, I don't think. I don't think they would have left if he had said no.

    But, overall, I think it fit in fine. And, I like that they're keeping the Martha story alive with her father. You know that Philip is going to call her parents and, something will come out of that.

    Nice Pastor Tim twist....although we knew that Elizabeth and Philip weren't involved.

    I got a bit confused with his work that involved his high school "girlfriend". I knew they'd get back to that at some point, but I was confused about their discussion that she found out that her dad was in the CIA. Was Philip surprised that he told her? Worried? Happy? I'm not sure.

    Lastly, Elizabeth is surely being tested and having feelings (however slight) that are more like Philip's regarding her apprehension and emotion on getting Young Hee's family disrupted.

    Still, a great great show.

    Oh, yeah, I I loved Paige's reaction when she hugged the pastor's wife and then when the wife broke down right into Paige's arms....well her acting and the look on her face was priceless and perfect for a "15 year old".
     
  5. john4200

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    He was thinking about Paige. This girl told someone about her father being a spy, like Paige told someone about her parents being spies.
     
  6. desulliv

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    Yeah. Not the way that's handled in the spy vs. spy world. If they wanted to recruit him they would have done what you described--one-on-one assessment and cultivation. As a trained counter-intelligence agent he would not have run or attacked. He would have heard them out and tried to identify their assets and mission.
     
  7. jsmeeker

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    Agent Gaad



    I totally forgot about the high school chick.
     
  8. brebeans

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    Ahh.....got it. I was focusing on the plot, his reasons for his "friendship" with her, the bug in the briefcase, etc. Didn't "go" to his father role to Paige during their conversation.

    Thanks.
     
  9. Steveknj

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    Did Philip know that the girls dad was CIA or just worked for the State Department? If he didn't know, that could certainly complicate things.
     
  10. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    I'm pretty sure they picked Kimmie as the target because they wanted access to the father because they knew he was CIA.
     
  11. frombhto323

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    He knew, but just pretended to not know. He was also a bit alarmed that Kimmy would just casually tell him that, so he cautioned discretion, probably because he is feeling it hit close to home with his family's ongoing saga with Paige.
     
  12. vman41

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    It's also a personal threat. If the dad finds out she's been telling people, he's going to want to know who.
     
  13. DeDondeEs

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    Did anyone else hear a smartphone buzz in the beginning of the show while they were at the dinner table? A cast or crew member probably left their phone on. It was that double buzz sound like when you get a text on an iPhone. I just thought that was a funny sound to hear on a show set in the 80's.
     
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  14. Cainebj

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    I was so curious I just re-watched the opening - the dinner table through the conversation with Paige.

    I didn't hear a smartphone buzz.

    Maybe it was actually a smartphone near you?
     
  15. Rob Helmerichs

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    Heh. Sometimes I get the reverse...a cellphone goes off on the TV and I reach for mine.
     
  16. Bierboy

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    Seriously, seriously disappointed they took the easy way out in the Pastor Tim situation. ANYTHING but them being found alive....ugh.

    Also, VERY out of character for Lizzy to tell Gabriel "yes" about finding another way in. I don't care how much she likes the family, that just seemed very out of character. Otherwise a decent episode...
     
  17. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    How else did you expect it to play out? If Pastor Tim isn't found or shows up dead, the Justice Department gets the tape that Alice made and Philip and Elizabeth have to run and that's basically the end of the show. Having him be found allows that tension created by someone knowing their secret to remain intact.

    But now Paige sees the very difficult situation she created by telling Pastor Tim and maybe she'll be a little more open to the idea of "eliminating" him if the situation gets too tense again. After all, her other option is to go to Russia with her parents.
     
  18. TiVo'Brien

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    I hope before the season is over we get an update on Martha.

    I picture her sitting all alone at the kitchen table of her Soviet apartment, crying into her bowl of borscht.
     
  19. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

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    There was plenty to play out...maybe there's a tape; maybe there isn't anymore. Maybe Phil and Liz off the lawyer to get the tape (if it still exists). Maybe they kill both the pastor and his wife as many first theorized (but let's wait until the baby is born). There were lots of other options on how this could play out. It was a silly, easy way out for the writers, and I hated it.
     
  20. Dawghows

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    I disagree. I think we're just seeing the first cracks in Elizabeth's ice.
     

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