The 4400 8/26/2007 (S04E11) "Ghost in the Machine"

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  1. dswallow

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    I can't imagine Tom's gonna be able to stay a "marked" for long without leaving NTAC.

    What's up with that park in Promise City? It's vaguely familiar why Maya's able to talk to her parents in there, but I forget the details.
     
  2. fasi22mob

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    A 4400 in a wheel chair has the ability to bring back people from the dead. It seem he can only do this while awake.
     
  3. HiddenSky

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    I don't think it lasts. I can't see the season ending without the real Tom having to deal with being one of the "marked."
     
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    I can't believe Kevin fell for the Tess voice. "I'm over here, come find me" = obvious trap.

    When Isabelle killed Matthew, he died, right? Or did the host body die and the future "soul" go back to the future? It must have been the later, since how else would Tom convince Drew to kill himself to get a new host body?
     
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    Oh, just remembered, I liked the "give Steve Jobs promycin" line. :D
     
  6. Odds Bodkins

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    Bad Tom is getting much more bold and Kyle continues his march to worst actor on the planet. Still, I'm enjoying this show for the first time since the end of season two.
     
  7. unicorngoddess

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    So, is the only way for Tom to get rid of this future person inside him to take the promicin shot??? That's the only reason I could think of him for him to take the shot.
     
  8. HiddenSky

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    That's what I'm expecting to happen. He declined the shot, and then wasn't it the next episode where the Marked became known?
     
  9. TAsunder

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    No, he didn't die somehow. Matthew = Tom right now. Same "future guy" but a different "host body". And apparently the host affects the personality. Maybe we can call him Tom Dax now or something.
     
  10. pkscout

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    I liked this line as well.

    I'm wondering about Tom somehow being able to re-exert some control and take the promicin shot. Since they're going after Jordan now, I'm wondering if simply having promicin in your system is enough to kick out one of The Marked. Either the original 4400 aren't immune to The Marked, they are and The Marked don't know it, or taking the shot while taken over by one of The Marked kicks them out.

    Or there is a whole 'nother thing I'm not thinking of. ;)

    I've really enjoyed this season. I wish they'd give us a few more episodes or less time between seasons. For this first time in awhile I'm going to find it hard to wait 9 more months for more shows.
     
  11. Timbeau

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    LOL. I really enjoy this show and I'm amazed that I can like it this much with so many actors being this bad. Maybe good writing is more important than good acting in making a successful show.
     
  12. unicorngoddess

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    Yeah. I noticed one of the previews mentioning the final battle or something and it hit me that we're probably nearing the end of the season already. It feels too soon. 12 episodes seem to go by so fast.
     
  13. DevdogAZ

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    I found this ep pretty interesting. I'm very intrigued by the idea of the main good-guy character turning bad.

    It's also very interesting that Jordan may now be compromised by The Marked since people in Promise City seem to follow his lead without question. If he's now making decisions that go against the interest of The 4400, it will be interesting to see if anyone calls him on it. Maybe Cassie will tell Kyle when Jordan's doing stuff that's not in the plan.
     
  14. Amnesia

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    The character didn't turn bad at all. Essentially, the same actor is now playing a different character, but the rest of the characters don't yet realize it.

    Now Isabelle went from good to bad to good (to bad again?), but that's about it.
     
  15. DevdogAZ

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    Actually, that reminds me. Diana and the boss lady now seem to know (or at least have a strong suspicion) about Tom being one of The Marked. Considering that, I'm surprised they haven't taken some measures to prevent his access to NTAC.
     
  16. Amnesia

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    They may suspect that the Marked can just suicide to bodyjump...
     
  17. HiddenSky

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    That bothered me a bit at the end of the episode. They both obviously think something's wrong with Tom, yet they left him with access to who knows what in the NTAC offices as he gave them a maniacal look when the elevator doors closed. I'm still not certain if Meghan is totally on the up and up, although I didn't get the strange vibe from her this episode.
     
  18. Church AV Guy

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    With Isabelle powered up again, there are no constraints on the writers. I think this is going a bit like Carter in The X Files. He did a whole bunch of interesting stories, and when people started to ask how it all fit together he said he was following a plan, but what he really meant was, that he thought, given enough time, he could make some coherent storyline fit all the episodes, and we all know how badly that turned out. I am enjoying this season, but I greatly fear it will all fall apart under its own weight rather than come together as a unified whole.

    Babylon 5 came as close to a coherent story as any I know of, but others, like The Pretender, and the above mentioned X Files, did not do so well. [Hey! I just realized that Jeffrey Donovan from Burn Notice played Kyle, Jarod's brother on The Pretender.] I fear that they are just going with it episode by episode, and I should just enjoy it in that way.
     
  19. IndyJones1023

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    Did anyone else catch Imroth's wife's name? Melissa. :D
     
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    Yeah, I thought I saw that and some e-mail about philanthropy projected on the wall of Marcus' office.
     

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