Just a note of appreciation for the advice given to me by the members of the group several weeks ago. We are now free from the 100+ dollar a month from our sat provider. Took the advice of several on here and bought 2 used tivo 3's, have OTA, and could not be happier. Both dvrs work great, never miss a recording and saving 75 bucks a month. Been using the tivos now for several weeks. The streaming functions and internet functions are also a nice addition that our outdated sat dvrs did not provide. One more thing. We did have a small glitch with our account and the customer service reps fixed the problem quickly and professionally. It was nice talking to customer service people who really appreciate our business. Don't get me started on our 10 year experiences with our sat provider... To anyone wanting to dump cable or sat to save money, do a little research and you won't ever look back. Thanks again, group!