Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles "Gnothi Seauton" 01/14/2008 *spoilers*

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  1. madscientist

    madscientist Deregistered Snoozer

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    Or maybe we got it, but didn't think it was funny enough or clever enough to bother posting about :cool:
     
  2. madscientist

    madscientist Deregistered Snoozer

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    But the important thing about that scene is how John reacted. He obviously didn't realize she was diagnosing him...
     
  3. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    They may have been confused by the producers saying that this series replaces T3...
     
  4. madscientist

    madscientist Deregistered Snoozer

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    Nah. Obviously some kind of carbon nanotech.

    After all, isn't everything?
     
  5. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    Not to mention the fact that they'd be looking for evidence of how the explosion happened and bodies, so of course they'd go through the rubble with a fine-toothed comb, but I just chose to gloss over that part. :D
     
  6. balboa dave

    balboa dave well rounded

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    Citation? Because I'm saying that the T3 events still happened, just not to THIS Sarah Conner.

    From The FutonCritic Interview, Brian Ford Sullivan:
    James Middleton:
     
  7. TiVo Bum

    TiVo Bum Pure Bum

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    How bout this?
    http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20170519,00.html

     
  8. Jeeters

    Jeeters Registered Snoozer

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    http://tv.ign.com/articles/808/808045p1.html...

    "The question of continuity between the films and the series was brought up, and executive producer Josh Friedman reiterated what he told us about the series, which picks up after Terminator 2. "When we first started this, people said, 'Oh, this takes place between T2 and T3, and I think that was incorrect. This really is, as far as I'm concerned, T3. I mean, this is a continuation of what I would call the Sarah Connor trilogy. So I think anything that happens after T2 is fair game for us. And I think the ending of T2 -- killing Cyberdyne, killing Miles Dyson -- sort of changes the timeline for anything in the future." "


    http://tv.ign.com/articles/798/798086p1.html

    IGN: "Are you working within the continuity of the Terminator movies, specifically Terminator 3?"

    Friedman: "We're gonna go off on our own. I think the thing about T3 is, obviously there was just no Sarah Connor and that's something the fans were never happy with. I don't even think the people who made T3 were happy with that. It just wasn't a choice of theirs. You know, Linda Hamilton was going through some things and didn't want to be a part of it. They had a script at one point I know; there was a T3 that had Sarah in it. I've never read it. I don't know anything about it. But I know that they did and they wanted to do that. They wanted it to be kind of her trilogy, and it never could be. So I think that my feeling was this TV series to me sort of serves as the third act to that trilogy - what could have happened had we followed that after T2. So I almost think of this as T3. To me it takes the place of T3. But also I think that sort of in the spirit of Terminator, it's an alternate timeline. ..."
     
  9. Sherminator

    Sherminator ɹǝs∩ pǝɹǝʇsıƃǝᴚ

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    Well in T3 they were. (just seen the scene where the LA Fire Dept. tried to lift Arnie but couldn't)
     
  10. balboa dave

    balboa dave well rounded

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    Thanks for supporting my viewpoint. For the Sarah in this series, T3 never happened. This is an alternate and new timeline. But since Cameron made a specific reference to events of T3, I still maintain those events can still be brought into play, although like the human looking Klingons of Star Trek, maybe it'll be something they don't want to talk about.

    And for the record, until today, I have never read any of these interviews with the producers before. I prefer to let the show speak for itself, and my opinions and speculations are based just on what I saw on TV.
     
  11. TiVo Bum

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    Now T3 either happened or didn't happen :). Don't think we're talking a Sliders version here, or at least I hope not. IMHO any reference to any events that occured in T3 are entirely "coincidental" - coincidental meaning that the creators of this series can borrow whatever they want from T3 but are in no way mandated to follow any/all of that storyline as that future never happened.
     
  12. balboa dave

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    I've never seen Sliders, so I have no idea what that means, nor do I want to. You have no basis to say the T3 events never happened, since it hasn't been established IN THIS SERIES which future Cameron has come from. If the T3 events happened, she'll know, so we'll just have to wait and see how that develops. I get that this is a complete reboot of the series after T2, but it's not necessary to throw T3 out to achieve that.
     
  13. robpickles

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    The events of T3 *DID* happen but for Cameron only and maybe for the other Terminators that are lurking around. (Edit: At least the ones that were sent back BEFORE their jump into the future)

    Cameron changed history by bringing Sarah and John into the future (2007). They disappeared from the year they were living and are considered missing or dead for all intents and purposes. So now they are living in an alternate timeline. Sarah can still get cancer but it will just happen later because of the time shift. So now things will happen differently than the other timeline.

    Rob :)
     
  14. Amnesia

    Amnesia The Question

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    What about non-intensive purposes?

    Perhaps you meant "intents and purposes"...
     
  15. robpickles

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    LOL thank u. I will correct.

    Rob :)
     
  16. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    In the theatrical release when John asks if he can learn, he says that his cpu is a learning computer then the camera cuts to John and in a voice over the terminator says that the more he is around people the more he learns.

    In the T2 Extreme edition DVD when John asks if he can learn, he says that his cpu is a learning computer but it gets set to read only when they are sent out alone. Then they remove it and reset it in another scene using Linda's twin sister.
     
  17. heySkippy

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    Didn't happen, that seems obvious to me.
     
  18. Mikkel_Knight

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    Again, late to the party, but I'm going to go with "unknown model" vs. something he hasn't seen/met before.

    There's something special about Cameron...
     
  19. Mikkel_Knight

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    who cares about the head... why is everyone focused on the head.

    A bank has a MASSIVE explosion. 3 "bodies" are known to be in the vault. 1 "body" is allegedly semi-metal in nature and should be seen in recovered tapes ripping apart the vault door before the explosion occurs.

    T1, the remaining parts were taken to Cyberdine for research and evaluation. The bank likely needed to be reconstructed and one should assume that no bodies were found, nor biological remenents (at least not enough for at least 3 humans), but parts of a robot were found. Why were those not somewhere else, but relegated to some scrap heap in some junk yard.

    We're meant to believe that the bank was just carted off to a junk yard and 7 years later, still had yet to be sifted through?

    That, right there, is the biggest stretch... the robot body/parts should have been in the Secret Service's domain (likely passed on through them to the DoD) rather than in some scrap heap in a junk yard.

    Other than that, it makes sense... ;) :D
     
  20. Mikkel_Knight

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    Again, I think this is going to be something that comes into play in the future...

    I think Cameron is going to wind up as his future wife - or, more appropriately, Cameron is modeled after his future wife...

    Something like that anyway...
     

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