Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles "Gnothi Seauton" 01/14/2008 *spoilers*

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Kamakzie, Jan 15, 2008.

  1. heySkippy

    heySkippy oldweakandpathetic

    Jul 2, 2001
    Sarasota, FL


    In all fairness, these are really big details. Some people can watch a movie like T1 or T2 and not consider how the movie presents the mechanics and physics of Terminators. Other people are all about details like those.

    I'm somewhere in between. I would much prefer they write this TV show with some fair amount of respect to the first 2 movies.
  2. smak

    smak TV MA SLV

    Feb 11, 2000
    NoHo, CA USA
    No Terminator in this timeline is programmed to kill John Connor. It wasn't their purpose. Sarah even said that if one of them passed John in the street, they would walk right by.

    That Terminator's job is to kill John Connor, and without him, there'd be no Terminator chasing John Connor which is pretty much the main storyline of every Terminator story.

  3. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    I have a hunch that they are doing just that, and that the complaints are the result of viewers not yet understanding what's going on.

    I think it's very, very premature to accuse the writers of this show of much of anything. We just haven't seen enough to judge.
  4. DreadPirateRob

    DreadPirateRob Seriously?

    Nov 11, 2002
    Not quite. I believe that Cameron said that no Terminator in this timeline (2007) knows what John looks like, so if it passed him on the street it would walk right on by. However, once it found out who he was it was certainly try to kill him.
  5. Jeeters

    Jeeters Registered Snoozer

    Feb 25, 2003


    I was just about to post the same thing, but you just said it for me.

    The 1999 (?) terminator is important because it knows exactly what John Connor looks like. It itself didn't know until it was able to ID him when taking attendance in the classroom.
  6. smak

    smak TV MA SLV

    Feb 11, 2000
    NoHo, CA USA
    It's not just that, his job is to look for John and kill him.

    While the 2007 Terminator's would kill John if they knew it was John,they aren't looking for him. Big difference.

    If I remember in T2, didn't the T1000 find a picture of John, and then figure out where he was. And then he went to the arcade showing John's picture around.

    I don't think they came back in time with the knowledge of what John looked like.

  7. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

    May 1, 2006
    Dallas, TX
    I noticed this morning it is in Amazon Unbox free downloads section on Tivo.:up:
  8. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Fishers, IN
    Unfortunately, it's not HD and has no closed captioning :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:
  9. mrdbdigital

    mrdbdigital The TBS Archives TCF Club

    Feb 2, 2004
    Moultrie, GA
    Was that scene shown in the theatrical release, or re-added for a DVD release? because I sure don't remember it. I'm assuming it is shown in a later version DVD release? Maybe the T2 special edition?
  10. IndyJones1023

    IndyJones1023 Auteur

    Apr 1, 2002
    Orlando, FL
    I just watched the special edition, so I don't know how much of that was in the theatrical release.
  11. MickeS

    MickeS Well-Known Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Yes, this is in the special edition, not in the theatrical version. It was a a pretty interesting scene for how it was shot - the mirror image was played by Linda Hamilton's twin sister (she was also in the scenes from the final battle in the end of the movie, where the eveil Terminator is impersonating Sarah Connor), but didn't add much to the movie other than that bit of minutiae about how the Terminator can now learn.
  12. vman41

    vman41 Omega Consumer

    Jun 18, 2002
    Considering that the rubble has the contents of a bank vault, you'd think it would be picked over very thoroughly to retrieve the customer's safe deposit box contents.
  13. gchance

    gchance 4 8 15 16 23 42

    Dec 6, 2002
    Olivehurst, CA
    I finally got to watch this, and I was thinking about the scene where they picked up Cameron, put her in the chair, and tossed her out the window...

    Shouldn't a Terminator be REALLY heavy, like twice or three times as much as Summer Glau weighs? I mean if John was carrying Summer around, it'd be like carrying a sack of potatoes, but carrying Cameron should be tougher.

    Anyway, just my thought. You guys covered the whole Terminator head and such. :)

  14. nataylor

    nataylor Curiously Strong TCF Club

    Apr 26, 2000
    Houston, TX
    If you're building a robot to be an analog of a human, and use it for infiltration purposes, it would make sense to make it about the same mass as a human. So they must be built of light-weight, but very strong, alloys.
  15. heySkippy

    heySkippy oldweakandpathetic

    Jul 2, 2001
    Sarasota, FL
  16. Mars Rocket

    Mars Rocket Loosely wound

    Mar 24, 2000
    Sinnoh region
    I'm actually thinking it's better to ave the 1999 terminator one of the ones looking for them now, as opposed to having multiple new terminators walking around. If there are no limits on how many terminators Skynet can send back in time then the show would be over pretty quickly as the army of terminators swept through southern CA looking for Sarah and John.

    Although to be honest, finding somebody who's not using credit cards and such would probably be pretty hard.
  17. balboa dave

    balboa dave well rounded

    Jan 19, 2004
    I think that a lot of people have misunderstood what this timeline is, and think this series replaces T3. It does not, at least in the sense that those events never happened and have no consequence.

    Yes, this story begins right after where T2 left off, but the incursion from the future is no longer based on the events resulting after the end of T1, as T2 was. It is now based on the consequences of T3, which in turn was based on the events from T2. Confused yet? Basically, I believe if anything, this series should be considered as T4, but with the twist only possible in the inherent illogic* of time travel in that it starts before T3.

    My primary clue is Cameron tells Sarah that, in Cameron's timeline, Sarah died from cancer on a specific date, which happened in T3. As to exactly what the results of the T3 timeline are after the movie ended, well, we're just learning that now, aren't we. It's an entirely new playing field, as it were. The only constant I can think of, is Sarah still has, or will soon get, cancer, and John is still the future leader of humanity.

    This means everything can be different without changing canon. So if the robots are now different, so what? It's allowed. They're evolved. If there is now more than one terminator, with different missions than killing John, or Sarah, or whoever, the more the merrier. Bring 'em on. If the future resistance is now smarter, with more complex strategies and more intricate planning, good for them, and good for this series.

    *illogic is probably not a real word now, but it's from the future!
  18. Turtleboy

    Turtleboy Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Mar 24, 2001
    Ft. Lauderdale
    So who is the governor of California in this reality? ;)
  19. Amnesia

    Amnesia The Question

    Jan 30, 2005
    Boston, MA
    Sylvester Stallone...
  20. PJO1966

    PJO1966 Hi. What is this?

    Mar 5, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
    Sylvester Stallone, of course. :rolleyes:


    *edit* DOH! beaten by one minute!

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