Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles "Gnothi Seauton" 01/14/2008 *spoilers*

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  1. nataylor

    nataylor Curiously Strong TCF Club

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    One thing that bugged me:

    When they came through the time portal, they looked like it wasn't that big a deal. When Reese came through, he was in serious pain. I had always assumed the process was pretty tough on the body (obviously not a problem for the Terminators).

    Also, shouldn't it have left a big pothole in the road. One that would be red hot and burn their feet off?
     
  2. Amnesia

    Amnesia The Question

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    I don't think Cameron would have referred to it as an "engineer" in that case.

    But there's no reason why it couldn't have been a human with some parts embedded inside him...
     
  3. IndyJones1023

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    Well, a Terminator is a cyborg meant for killing. I would imagine a reprogrammed one meant for engineering would be called an Engineer.
     
  4. Bierboy

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    If I had been drinking a Coke when I read that, it would have been spewed through my nose and all over my laptop.
     
  5. TAsunder

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    Looking forward to Kal Penn as "Engineer E-101"
     
  6. mrdbdigital

    mrdbdigital The TBS Archives TCF Club

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    Maybe it gets more painful the further they travel in time?

    You must have missed the scene where they sprayed insulin all over the glowing parts to cool them off. :D

    (This is a joke for those of you not in the know)
     
  7. Sirius Black

    Sirius Black Grey Warden Reject

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    This might have already been mentioned but his character's name in this show was Enrique. Is this the same Enrique that Sarah and John visited in Mexico in T2? If so, IIRC in the director's cut of that movie, the T-1000 kills the entire family, including Enrique.
     
  8. IndyJones1023

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    Huh? Is there a Director's version that is vastly different from the Special Edition? I just watched the SE and not only does that not happen, but I don't see how it could.

    Sarah peels away in the station wagon from John, "Uncle Bob, Enrique, et al in the desert. Enrique tells John and the T-101 Sarah will meet up with them later. John figures out it's to kill Dyson and he immediately sets out after her with Arnie. Not only do they not have time to kill Enrique and clan, but John is never shown upset during the night time car ride. You'd think he'd be pretty shocked if the Terminator had killed Enrique when he's trying to preserve life.
     
  9. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    I don't remember much about the movie at all, but I do know that you're getting things confused. He's not saying that Arnie's Terminator did the killing. Sirius Black said the T-1000 killed Enrique. The T-1000 is not Arnie, but is the Robert Patrick liquid-metal Terminator. Whether he actually did that, I have no idea.
     
  10. Sirius Black

    Sirius Black Grey Warden Reject

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    The T-1000 not Arnold. I admit my memory is a bit hazy and it has been a long time since I've seen the version I'm talking about but if you are in the DVD and you go into one of the menus and on your remote you enter 82997 or something like that it opens another version of the movie where I think this happens. It happens after Arnold and John leave.
     
  11. IndyJones1023

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    Oh weird. I've never heard of this.
     
  12. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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  13. IndyJones1023

    IndyJones1023 Auteur

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    That only tells you how to do it. The only reference I can find to the actual scene is on IMDB.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103064/alternateversions

    But it isn't described at all.
     
  14. wprager

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    And in every episode Zev *had* to crawl through some tubes (they should have used more Jeffrey's Tubes in ST:TOS, while they had the old unis).
     
  15. JYoung

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    It's living tissue as in it can heal as well.
    In T2, when Sarah is pulling the bullets from Arnie's T-800, she asks him if the bullet holes will heal.
    Arnie says that they will with time and Sarah comments "Good, otherwise it will be tough for you to pass for human."

    So given time, the flesh will eventually heal.
    Although I can't see the flesh coming back after it's been totally seared off.

    Also, was Robert Patrick's T-1000 covered in flesh when he was sent back and he discarded it when he killed the first cop?
     
  16. wprager

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    ... away

    (OK, who gets that reference?)
     
  17. wprager

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    I thought it was Greek for "google.com".
     
  18. smak

    smak TV MA SLV

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    And left out receiving.

    -smak-
     
  19. Cue-Ball

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    I somewhat enjoyed the first episode of this series, but the second episode was pretty much a shark jump for me. There are just too many breaks with T1/2 continuity and too many "how the hell could that happen" moments. They've all been discussed here, but the metal head getting through the time portal was a biggie for me. Sarah, John, and Summer all lose their clothing, their gun, etc. and come through naked, but the non-flesh covered head comes through just fine? Worse than that was the headless terminator body being able to navigate around its surroundings, decapitate a guy, put the guys head on top as a disguise, then find its way to its own dismembered head which was picked up by a side of the road trash bagger. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. How did the body get from the bank to the trash heap? Didn't anyone wonder what the hell tore open a vault door like a sardine can? Didn't anyone wonder about a time machine setup in one of the safe deposit boxes? There are just way too many things here that are either glossed over or contradict canon.

    I won't be bothering with future episodes. Burn in hell, Fox, for ruining (on the second episode, no less!) what could have been a fantastic show.
     
  20. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    While I understand your frustration with the fleshless head getting through the time portal and the ensuing stupidity of the headless robot finding its way to the head.

    However, I think the latter half of your rant can be explained if we assume that the bank (or at least the vault) was completely destroyed in the wake of the plasma gun and the time bubble. If that's the case, it's not surprising that nobody found the headless robot or the time-travel equipment. They were just part of the rubble of the explosion that destroyed the bank, and they were probably scooped up by a front-end loader and placed in a dump truck.
     

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