Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles "Gnothi Seauton" 01/14/2008 *spoilers*

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  1. Jan 16, 2008 #81 of 219
    danterner

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    Bill: [sneaking around in the police station] Look, we left ourselves a note!
    Ted: Whoah, that was nice of us!
     
  2. Jan 16, 2008 #82 of 219
    smak

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    You can always say that about stories with time travel involved.

    If the writers are careful enough, I don't usually see it as a problem.

    It's not lazy if it makes sense.

    It would make sense that the resistance from the future would have safe houses in the past, if one of their main goals is to protect John Connor for 25 years.

    -smak-
     
  3. Jan 16, 2008 #83 of 219
    TAsunder

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    Just because it makes sense doesn't mean the writing is any less lazy. Basically all they have to do in this show is a variation of the buffy "supremely powerful weapon we only just found out about that will kill the supremely powerful being which is otherwise unstoppable".

    It's a writing safety net. Any time they get stuck or write themselves into a corner with a situation, bad guy, etc. they can just claim to have sent someone or some thing back in time.
     
  4. Jan 16, 2008 #84 of 219
    mrdbdigital

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    The safe house was the location where they got the stuff from the safe and found the dead resistance fighters, not the house they were living in.
     
  5. Jan 16, 2008 #85 of 219
    Sherminator

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    The one thing that I cannot yet figure out is this:

    What is keeping Summernator's (or any of the other terminators) skin alive? She has been active for over 73 days, if all there is to a terminator is robot under skin, then the skin would have surely decayed before John met up with her.

    It was acceptable in the movies, as those terminators were delivered with some accuracy to their destinations and didn't survive long enough for the skin to rot.

    T-1000 is another issue altogether, but as that model is not yet featured in the series, let's leave that conundrum alone, for now.
     
  6. Jan 16, 2008 #86 of 219
    IndyJones1023

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    Arnie said in T2: living tissue over metal endoskeleton. "Living" tissue. I'm sure they have enough organs in place to sustain the skin.
     
  7. Jan 16, 2008 #87 of 219
    smak

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    Every scene in every action film is lazy then.

    The reason the arrows didn't kill Indy in the opening of Raiders is because of lazy writing. I mean, how could they miss?

    The reason that x bad guys machine gun fire didn't kill x good guy in x movie is because of lazy writing. One bullet HAD to have hit the good guy no?

    There could never be any TV shows or movies if there is potential they may do something lazy. Wait until they do it at least.

    -smak-
     
  8. Jan 16, 2008 #88 of 219
    TAsunder

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    Yes, those are also examples of lazy writing.

    It's better to complain now so we can later say "I told you so" and have smug looks on our faces.
     
  9. Jan 16, 2008 #89 of 219
    Sherminator

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    And what sustains the organs?

    At least in Robocop they had it eat baby food.
     
  10. Jan 16, 2008 #90 of 219
    IndyJones1023

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    Have you ever fired a blow dart, arrow, or machine gun?
     
  11. Jan 16, 2008 #91 of 219
    IndyJones1023

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    Oddly enough, the actor who played Enrique in T2 was in Prison Break, but not reprising his role for this show.
     
  12. Jan 16, 2008 #92 of 219
    zalusky

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    Actually my post was probably lazy writing :).
    I think what I meant was there is the potential for lazy writing using the time travel as an easy way out. IE lets just destroy any believability AKA 24 some times. I also agree it can be fun such as the movie Frequency and other.

    Yes I was thinking of Bill and Ted but its more fun to let us all contribute to the conversation.
     
  13. Jan 17, 2008 #93 of 219
    smak

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  14. Jan 17, 2008 #94 of 219
    doom1701

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    Although someone else already pointed out that the "safe house" was where they found the safe, not where they are now living, I agree with you on the other points. And, if you think about it, to provide the resources necessary for this "past battle", John really only had to send back one person.

    The person couldn't bring anything back (living tissue, yadayada), but if you send one person back to, say, the mid 1940's, with knowledge of world and business events, that person could take a few dollars he raised from menial labor and turn it into a massive investment portfolio--enough to fund the resistance pre-Judgement Day.
     
  15. Jan 17, 2008 #95 of 219
    Turtleboy

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    You misspelled job.
     
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    Jeeters

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    Impressive. Poison class or tranquilizer class?
     
  17. Jan 17, 2008 #97 of 219
    IndyJones1023

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    The engineer sent back could have been a covert Terminator with some parts embedded inside him.
     
  18. Jan 17, 2008 #98 of 219
    cheesesteak

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    What's a Gnothi Seauton?
     
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    nataylor

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    The pilot is being re-aired Jan. 28 at 8 p.m. (EST).
     

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