Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles "Gnothi Seauton" 01/14/2008 *spoilers*

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  1. Jan 15, 2008 #61 of 219
    Sparty99

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    I kind of look at Kyle Reese in this series kind of like the character of Han Solo as he relates to the Star Wars prequels. He had a huge role in part of the story, but in the grand canon he's really not all that important. Remember that Reese was nothing more than a soldier who volunteered to go back in time in 2029. In fact, in T2, John indicates that he doesn't meet his dad until John's 45, which means that Reese comes into the story shortly before we see him in the original Terminator.

    Of course, the changing timelines could change that, but I just don't see him as that crucial to the story.
     
  2. Jan 15, 2008 #62 of 219
    Sparty99

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    My take on that is that she doesn't need to act like a normal person when she's around John and Sarah. She does need to act like a normal person when she's around other people. While she may be a learning machine, I'm guessing that acting "normal" does not come naturally.
     
  3. Jan 15, 2008 #63 of 219
    BeanMeScot

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    She has been programmed to be a mimic. She was mimicing high school behavior. They are not in HS anymore so she is outside of her knowledge base. She is acting more like a machine as she learns new behaviors.
     
  4. Jan 16, 2008 #64 of 219
    zalusky

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    The headless terminator made me think of reanimator. Walking around trying to get his head back. Maybe another inside joke. Maybe not.
     
  5. Jan 16, 2008 #65 of 219
    wmcbrine

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    Let me take issue with that in part. Sarah Connor was rightly rebuked for not changing her alias. But why didn't she? Because the alias was... "Reese". She's still trying to hold on to him.

    I loved John's line about him -- "he's always a hero, and he's always dead".

    But yes (to Turtleboy), Sarah Connor has always been the star of the Terminator stories (not counting 3, which I haven't seen).
     
  6. Jan 16, 2008 #66 of 219
    IndyJones1023

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    Actually, John picked Reese. A long time before he was sent back. John gave him Sarah's picture so Reese would fall in love with her before his trip back.
     
  7. Jan 16, 2008 #67 of 219
    Amnesia

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    I'm not sure "picked" is the right word. Future John knew that Reese was his father, so he had to send him back...

    I'm surprised no one's mentioned Master Bra'tac...I thought it was good to see him again and the character was pretty interesting...
     
  8. Jan 16, 2008 #68 of 219
    IndyJones1023

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    Semantics. At any rate, it isn't like Reese volunteered to be johnny-on-the-spot while they were spooling up the time bubble, "who wants to go?"
     
  9. Jan 16, 2008 #69 of 219
    TAsunder

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    I don't see very many questions answered at all. There are still a lot of gaping plot holes at the moment.
     
  10. Jan 16, 2008 #70 of 219
    betts4

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    I watched both episodes last night. I went into it thinking bleh, terminator, but found myself caught up very quickly. I really like Lena and Summer they are a great team!
    I loved it when she was being questioned by the cop and Sarah pulled her aside and started yelling at her like a step mom! And the scene inside with the guys telling Sarah about 911 and such.

    Little things about jumping 8 years - John's sort of knowledge of computers, but not enough. I bet he will soon have a laptop.

    I did wonder where the empty house with furniture came from/was obtained.
     
  11. Jan 16, 2008 #71 of 219
    astrohip

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    I've gone brain dead. What role did Sonya have in eps 2?
     
  12. Jan 16, 2008 #72 of 219
    DougF

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    She was Charley's wife.
     
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    kdelande

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    And I noticed that Summernator placed her hand ever so gently on John's neck as she walked away from him at the table in one seen, like someone with affection for him.

    KD
     
  14. Jan 16, 2008 #74 of 219
    IndyJones1023

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    She was diagnosing him.
     
  15. Jan 16, 2008 #75 of 219
    Turtleboy

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    Did they explain where and how they got the house?
     
  16. Jan 16, 2008 #76 of 219
    kdelande

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    A-HA, that would explain that then. Didn't put two&two together, thanks Indy.

    KD
     
  17. Jan 16, 2008 #77 of 219
    DougF

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    I'm going to guess Sarah bought it or is renting it. She told Enrique she had some money.
     
  18. Jan 16, 2008 #78 of 219
    DevdogAZ

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    Didn't Summernator say that it was a Resistance safe house that had been set up specifically for this purpose?
     
  19. Jan 16, 2008 #79 of 219
    zalusky

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    It does seem like lazy writing in the sense that whenever they need to give her some extra help they can say John sent this or that back from the future and have it waiting.
     
  20. Jan 16, 2008 #80 of 219
    TAsunder

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    Or the opposite... something that could easily be solved that way not being solved that way.
     

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