Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles "Gnothi Seauton" 01/14/2008 *spoilers*

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  1. Jan 15, 2008 #21 of 219
    doom1701

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    I don't know how I feel about this show. The first two Terminator movies (haven't seen the third, and I think that's a good thing) walked a fine line. They obviously aren't going to have a happy ending (in fact, they pulled the happy ending out of T2 to leave it a little more ambiguous), but they have a conclusion. You know at the end of two hours there's going to be a resolution, and the good guys will prevail.

    I watched the first to eps of SCC last night, and just felt depressed. We're going to have a season (or half a season, or a couple episodes until the actors have to start improving everything :) ) of them fighting and running and just getting out of deaths way by a hair, and then returning the next episode to do the same thing again. I'm all for story arcs (although I'm not yet convinced there is one for this show), but give me some hope.
     
  2. Jan 15, 2008 #22 of 219
    mwhip

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    I doubt this show will be cancelled it is getting phenomenal ratings. Of course it has no real competition but that will at least buy it some time.
     
  3. Jan 15, 2008 #23 of 219
    cheesesteak

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    The Terminator's metal head sitting there reminded me of that awful, awful scifi series Lexx.
     
  4. Jan 15, 2008 #24 of 219
    AJRitz

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    I'm loving this show. A few of my favorite moments from last night's episode:

    1. Summernator learning to look "natural" hanging out in the 'hood by mirroring/mimicking the body language of gang-girl while they were leaning against the truck.

    2. Did anyone else notice the address stenciled on the door of the computer store John was checking out? You can see it as he walks out - the address was 1337. :D

    3. Tossing Summernator out the window.

    4. Summernator killing El Finito - and being right about it.

    And I absolutely agree that Summer Glau has "filled out" a bit - in all the right places - but she still moves like a ballet dancer.
     
  5. Jan 15, 2008 #25 of 219
    doom1701

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    I was trying to figure out if that was an address--or the name of the store. Works either way.
     
  6. Jan 15, 2008 #26 of 219
    allan

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    I missed the pilot :( but this episode was good. :) But I'll be very surprised if Fox doesn't pull a "BIH" out of it. :(
     
  7. Jan 15, 2008 #27 of 219
    IDSmoker

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    I may have called the significance of the Terminator's skull surviving the blast of the uber-gun in the first episode, but I wasn't expecting the direction they took it in.

    I was thinking that the skull would be the only recognizable part of the terminator to remain in the vault after all was said and done. It would then be used to lead to the new Judgment Day.

    I certainly didn't foresee them violating established laws/canon by having the inanimate, non-flesh covered skull of the Terminator follow them through the time bubble! That was just wrong!

    It bothered me so much, that I wasn't nearly as troubled by the whole "cat saliva reactivated Terminator skull remotely activates body, that was apparently able to self-repair well enough from the damage from the uber-gun that it could play headless biker while working to reunite with it's skull" - thing as I should have been.

    This series is still a keeper for me (after all, it's not like there's anything else on to watch), but I was really disappointed by these logic shortcuts.
     
  8. Jan 15, 2008 #28 of 219
    scsiguy72

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    Sorry, I miss the connection 1337?

    Edit:

    OK I found it. Internet Slang http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet
     
  9. Jan 15, 2008 #29 of 219
    TAsunder

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    Why did the head survive but not that sweet gun?

    Why aren't people running amok throughout time using the time machine they left in the bank?

    Why did the terminator need a fake head? Maybe he rigged it to his body so he could see through those eyes?

    Are they going to buy some movie monster goo to replace their terminator's flesh so she doesn't look constantly beat up?
     
  10. Jan 15, 2008 #30 of 219
    flaminio

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    Aw, I liked Lexx :). As a "goofy" scifi show, it was a nice alternative to the overly serious shows that were on at the time, like Babylon 5 and Star Trek Voyager.

    Of course, that "formula" was perfected by Farscape, but Lexx did come first...
     
  11. Jan 15, 2008 #31 of 219
    vman41

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    Anybody else single-frame through the shot where the enemy terminating is evaluating Cameron? The meter on the left jumps up when he does the x-ray flash to see her skeleton.

    Does the "unknown cyborg" mean she is a model unknown to him or just an individual he hasn't met?
     
  12. Jan 15, 2008 #32 of 219
    Jeeters

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    The eyes looked pretty clouded over. I figured using the head was a disguise so that the terminator body could walk around without looking like a decapitated zombie.
     
  13. Jan 15, 2008 #33 of 219
    Jeeters

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    I took it to just mean he doesn't know who she is. I think the scan was just the realization that he was dealing with a fellow cyborg. Up until that time, it probably thought she was another human. Once the scan revealed her to be a cyborg, its software changed to 'Evade' mode (as shown on its HUD) from "kill" mode as it's probably not supposed to do battle with another cyborg which would risk it completing its actual mission.
     
  14. Jan 15, 2008 #34 of 219
    Kamakzie

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    I think eyes cloud over after a while when dead?
     
  15. Jan 15, 2008 #35 of 219
    speedy4022

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    I see the headless terminator making it through the time portal as a flaw in the story. How did a head which has no living tissue make the trip when it was already stated only living tissue can travel through them? I don't think it is a big deal I am not that picky but you know the sci-fi nerds will make a huge issue out of it.
     
  16. Jan 15, 2008 #36 of 219
    DreadPirateRob

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    I was wondering that myself. Perhaps as a disguise, but I guess if he was able to bio-engineer the body to be able to see through those eyes it would answer my question as to how the T-body is able to see without eyes.

    That's pretty much how I took it. Perhaps the Cameron model is a newer one, and at the time this particular T-model was sent back, the Cameron model hadn't been invented yet.
     
  17. Jan 15, 2008 #37 of 219
    Bob_Newhart

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    Darn, I had recorded the pilot on Sunday and was planning to watch it this weekend. I didn't realize the 2nd episode would be on last night. Guess I need to check the schedule.
     
  18. Jan 15, 2008 #38 of 219
    doom1701

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    They might make a big deal out of it...if they can figure out what you just said.
     
  19. Jan 15, 2008 #39 of 219
    JYoung

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    I love watching Summer Glau move in this and Serenity because she comes across as so graceful.

    Or John and the Resistance built the Summerator.
    I wonder if we'll learn that she's been programmed with the memories/personality of someone close to future John.

    That's been a key thing that's been bothering me about this.
    They've made a very big deal about the fact that only living things can time travel and it's a big reason why the Terminators have to be covered with flesh.
    To see the head just come through the portal like that is a fairly large disconnect.
     
  20. Jan 15, 2008 #40 of 219
    DreadPirateRob

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    You could be on to something - the writers have certainly gone out of their way to allude to the fact that the Riverator knows the future John Connor quite well, almost as if he personally programmed her.
     

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