Temperature of Bolt

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by MrDell, Aug 23, 2018.

  1. UCLABB

    UCLABB Well-Known Member

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    Agree. After my first drive failure, I did all the cooling stuff and brought the temp way down. Second drive still failed. Those drives were just bad and I doubt it had anything to do with the temps. I wasn't going to chance another drive failure so I moved to an externally connected 3.5" drive.
     
  2. tommage1

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    And that is the best solution overall, temp wise if worried, and 3.5" CMR drive of pretty much any size you want. Also 3.5" drives cheaper, when compared to same type/size 2.5" drive (CMR vs SMR, largest 2.5" drive is 5TB far as I know and is an SMR "storage/archive" type drive to boot.) Only thing I'd add is IMO Sata to Sata best, Sata to ESata on enclosure may work but bypassing the ESata electronics/different chipsets is pretty much as good as it gets. If choosing a good quality CMR 3.5" drive could get 5 years or more service, I'd say more, knock on wood.
     
  3. cwerdna

    cwerdna Proud Tivolutionary

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    I get that the ODT is the measurement on the large Broadcom chip, but the cooling of the Bolt is so poor, I'm almost certain the drive was running hot too and having a shortened life.

    That said, I agree that some of the drive failures would've still happened even if the unit were cooled better or the lid of the Bolt was removed.

    I figure $15 to ~$45 or so is cheap insurance for something that runs so darned hot and will likely save me a lot of headache and inconvenience from lost recordings + possible replacement costs or shelling out $ money for an external hard drive + enclosure.
     
  4. Resist

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    Well, in my situation every time my Bolt got too hot it stopped sending a signal through the HDMI port to the TV. When I rebooted the Bolt and kept it cooler with a fan, it’s been working fine.
     
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  5. tommage1

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    That is true, not a lot of space inside Bolt so overall temp could be high also. Did a bit more research, 60 C is about the highest recommended for a drive. If CPU is running 60-70 C it MIGHT raise the temp of the drive (amazingly it also says drive can run TOO cool also, recommended is 35-40 C, below 30C can lead to increased drive failure, lubricants etc). The drive, not the CPU. This info is from internet searches so keep that in mind.

    I will say the cost of external upgrade can be very cheap. Under $40, not including the drive. And you don't HAVE to buy another drive, can use the 2.5 internal that is currently being used, in the enclosure. Then if it ever fails can just buy a CMR 3.5 and pop it in. Time spent if you know how to do it, under an hour (instalation time), really easy. If using current internal drive in the enclosure of course would not lose recordings. If want to use a new drive and keep everything can copy or copy and expand to a 3.5 (MFST). That of course a bit trickier, due to possible loss of recordings if the copy/expand does not work or done incorrectly, once you swap for the new drive the flash drive will lose map to recordings on the old drive. For me the only possible negatives of enclosure if done right is having an extra device taking up space, the enclosure itself, the cable running between the Bolt and the enclosure and having an extra AC adapter plugged in all the time though increased electricity usage probably minimal. Do use two cables, so can separate/connect in the middle.

    Again would be interesting to take a drive that has ALWAYS/ONLY been in a Bolt, do a SMART check and see what temperature stat is reported. It may only report highest temp ever measured though, not sure. Do the same with Roamio and/or Premiere drive under same conditions (only been used in the respective Tivos, not swapped around among other devices). Not destructive (as long as you don't let Windows format the drives).
     
  6. Idol

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    My "test" Bolt ($20 ebay purchase) shows the fan with the direction arrow pointing down. That's towards the lower grill. I've placed a 120mm AC infinity fan under the back left corner my regular Bolt that also blows down. This adds to the suck of the little Bolt fan. I have temps around 45C with this setup.
     
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  7. DouglasPHill

    DouglasPHill Cynical old guy

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    I raised my bolt up 1 inch and have a fan blowing horizontally from the back left towards the front right (and removed the cable card panel), same around 45C
     
  8. Resist

    Resist Well-Known Member

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    I tried that and it actually raised the temperature. Very odd.
     
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  9. rcandsc

    rcandsc Mark it 8 Dude..

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    Did the same thing and placed an 80mm fan to blow from the back left to the front right. Temp is now at 42C. Thanks for the suggestion!
     
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  10. High Technology

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    Bumping this topic -- I bought the smaller AC Infinity 80MM fan a little over a year ago, and it seems to work well. For those who are Amazon Prime members, my Prime Day preview offers $10 Prime Day credit for purchases for Small Business sellers starting now. So this fan is $10.99 on Amazon, so I bought a second one, and I'll get $10 credit for Prime Day.

    As always, this offer may be targeted to certain Amazon accounts, but I see the "Spend $10 on small business, save $10 on Prime Day" offer on the item page: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G059G86/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
     
  11. DouglasPHill

    DouglasPHill Cynical old guy

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    Was checking temps last day or two, usually 44-45, but on one day it was 49. I decided the difference was because I was watching the Tivo rather than it sitting idle.
     
  12. UCLABB

    UCLABB Well-Known Member

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    Tivo is never idle unless you have it in standby.
     

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