TE3 vs TE4 - why do you like/dislike one vs the other?

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  1. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

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    Once you are paired, the setting should stick and you should not have to pair and unpair. You also should be able to have more than one remote set. The only time I have had my Slide Pro or original remotes move from RF (which I have them set at) to IR has been when my batteries were running down and low (this or a similar such circumstance may be what people at Amazon are taking about).*

    * This all is with Slide Pro and original Roamio/Bolt remotes--I assume that it also will apply to original Edge and Lux remotes.
     
  2. Rose4uKY

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    Thank you very much for your reply! That's all I've been wanting to know was that they both can be set to RF using one or the other at different times. And when he's not home I'll probably use the light up one.

    But I remember reading here a long time ago about people not liking user experience 4 telling people not to update. Which we have a Romeo plus so I don't even know if it was an option for us to get but I just remember no one liked it in the beginning. And we have TiVo experience 3 now and tivo said we're going to get the new 4. Do people still not like it? He said if you downgrade to three then you won't get all the remote features? I saw a couple YouTube videos I'm going to watch at work on dinner break shortly. But I don't really want to downgrade if it comes with 4 and that's what we're supposed to use with our remote and a couple people really like the voice feature I'm excited about that just to try it.

    But I think since we have a 4K TV it was worth the upgrade to just the bolt because of the price. I just usually like to have the latest and be up to date but we had our Roamio plus since 2013 so I'm sure we'll have this one for a long while. Plus we did the lifetime on this one cuz it was $300 off. An specwise we still have six tuners and a terabyte so I'm fine with that. But thanks for responding
     
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  3. Mikeguy

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    TE4 has improved since it first came out; some people like it, other people prefer the earlier user interface, TE3. There are advantages and disadvantages to each. But you can try TE4 out and see what you think. (You also can read up on the comparisons between TE4 and TE3 here.)

    I didn't see which model of Bolt box you are getting. Note that the specifically-denominated Bolt OTA box (as vs. the other Bolt box models) can't be sidegraded back to the TE3 user interface. (Nor can the new Edge boxes.)

    I'm not aware that the choice between TE3 and TE4 affects the remote, apart from: the TiVo voice feature that works under TE4 does not work under TE3, and the voice button on the voice remotes does not work under TE3, for the voice feature (instead, it will prompt you to install the TE4 user interface on your TiVo box--but you can decline).*

    As to multiple remotes: I have both an original remote and a Slide Pro remote set up for my TE3 Bolt box (I keep the original remote on top of the Bolt box, and use the Slide Pro remote for most use where I sit)--both are RF and there is no issue whatsoever in using both.

    One last thing: as you may have read about, the TE4 user interface comes with "pre-roll ads" that TiVo plays right before the first playback of a recorded show (but you can hit a button to skip the ad); the TiVo Guide also gets a line item listing for TiVo's free TiVo+ channel. These ads bother some people (and the pre-roll ads sometimes don't work well and/or can stall the TiVo box); other people don't care. If you stay with TE4 but don't like the ads, you can speak with TiVo customer support and ask them to turn off the pre-roll ads for your TiVo boxes, and they will do so (the TiVo+ Guide entry can't be turned off, however). The customer support "script" sometimes requires you to make the request a couple of times in your call--just be persistent when the rep. tells you that you may like the ads or otherwise can skip them, and repeat your request, and TiVo will honor it (although, if a large software release comes out, the "turn-off-ads" setting may get lost, and so you may need to speak with TiVo again).

    Enjoy your new toys! :) A new TiVo box and remote is fun.

    * Note: I don't have a Lux remote myself and so can't speak from personal experience--but I don't recall seeing here other Lux remote limitations.
     
  4. teeitup

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    You will love the Lux remote. I have three remotes all paired RF to my TiVo Bolt without any issues. You can use them at the same time if you wanted. Even pressing the remote finder button on the back of the Bolt will cause all three remotes to chime.
     
  5. Rose4uKY

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    Thanks! I have it in my Amazon Cart my husband really wants the light up one. I may eventually get me one too and just save the one that comes with the Bolt for a spare. Amazon you can get a 3 year warranty on the remote through Asurion for 5.99 is it worth it? Can't wait to get out Tivo. You have 3 remotes all paired to your Bolt RF? Tivo said only one can be used in RF at a time but they can both be in RF mode just put one up when using the other which I am glad about that. She mentioned Tivo C and Tivo D to switch back and forth. Remote finder is cool too!
     
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  6. Rose4uKY

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    Thanks for the reply I am so excited now and can't wait to get our Bolt. We are getting the cable version and it's the same as our Roamio Plus 1TB 6 tuner. I wanted that part to at least be the same. My husband said under specs he saw Dolby vision for this one I know I saw Dolby Atmos under specs for this one but Tivo said no only for The Edge and I told them there website was wrong. But we have a nice Nakamichi 9.2 soundbar and a 4K Vizio Smart TV and a Roku Ultra 4K we use now for Netflix and Prime out 2 main ones we use. I googled about our TV and it and it says it supports Dolby Vision but we are getting the Bolt for the price we got it for $199 and Lifetime for $249 monthly was 9.99 and I am paying 14.99 now but we did the Lifetime. I think we got a good deal and I usually want the latest but I have said this already we've had our Roamio since 2013 and plan on having this one for a long time too. Mainly getting it cause we have 4K TV now and the voice part which my husband doesn't care about but I think it sounds cool especially after seeing it on the You Tube video. Wanted the Bolt back when we got out TV before but only doing it now cause of the good deal.

    I didn't realize we would have ads. I don't think we have those now and yes I will call and have them turn them off and I hope they do. We watched a you tube video about TE4 and I don't really want to downgrade. It looks nice and I am excited to try something new. And I want to use the voice. I'm sure we'll get used to it. It talked about what the remote arrow buttons do. Another question Tivo themselves told me that the Thumbs up and Thumbs down don't rate shows anymore that it does something else. We like to rate shows and my husband keeps suggestions on. He usually deletes most of it but keeps some. Can you still rate shows if so how do you do it now? It doesn't just add stuff itself based on what you watch does it? Anyway I think that's all my questions for now. Our Bolt should be here Fri or Sat and I know we have to keep our old one hooked up too so we can transfer our shows. Hoping someone will buy our Roamio.
     
  7. Mikeguy

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    It's a great deal on a Bolt box--enjoy the new box (and remote)!

    Yeah, Suggestions was screwed up on TE4 and this never was fixed (despite TiVo acknowledging the issue and saying that it would be handled). TiVo moved to an "intelligent" system in which the system would use AI to predict shows for you--no thumbs used. And most people find, it just doesn't work. Try it for yourselves and see--and be prepared to turn Suggestions off. :( (Fortunately, Suggestions wasn't fooled around with under TE3, where it still works.)
     
  8. Rose4uKY

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    Oh really so we won't like suggestions great! I didn't thumb s up and down much husband did if we got to many of something he didn't like. We didn't get a lot of suggestions I don't think but he would come home at night and before we watched a show he would go through the list and delete most of it anyway. So he may not care about it. But yes we can try it for a bit and see how it does! All we have to do is delete stuff. And if he doesn't like it he can turn it off. I just got notice my Bolt has shipped it says 4-6 business days he said Fri or Sat but the tracking number in my email isn't correct for Fed-Ex which is who they said they used. I wanted UPS cause they have our garage code and put it inside the garage.
     
  9. pfiagra

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    I recommend to just turn off suggestions from the get go.
     
  10. Rose4uKY

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    Ok thanks! I'll tell my husband.
     
  11. bobfrank

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    You may not know that suggestions do not interfere with any hard drive space you might need for scheduled recordings. Suggestions are automatically deleted if space is needed for scheduled recordings.
     
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  12. pfiagra

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    correct, but the bad suggestions algorithm on TE4 clutters up and can overwhelm your shows list
     
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  13. bobfrank

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    It only can overwhelm the suggestions list, no effect on scheduled recordings. But there still might be some suggestions that would be of interest.
    To keep this post on topic, this is one minor reason I stay with TE3.
     
  14. Rose4uKY

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    I knew suggestions got deleted first. I mean they're still in a suggestion's folder aren't they? I guess it doesn't matter either way my husband said he'd like to leave it on just to see how it works now.
     
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