TE3 vs TE4 - why do you like/dislike one vs the other?

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by barnabas1969, Sep 12, 2019.

  1. bobfrank

    bobfrank Active Member

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    As I understand it you can download from the Tivo to your PC using KMTTG or pyTivo. With TE4 you can't upload from your PC to the Tivo with anything currently available.
     
  2. SlammedNiss

    SlammedNiss Mine drags the ground

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    Read thru the thread and didn't see anything about Tivo Desktop software and compatibility with TE4. Would I still be able to offload recordings from a TE4 Tivo Bolt OTA to my PC like I can currently with my TE3 Roamio?
     
  3. lhvetinari

    lhvetinari Watching telly, drinking wine - Lily Allen TCF Club

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    Yes, but you can’t put them back on the TiVo again (unless you transcode to MP4 and use Plex like I do for my movie collection)


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  4. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Just to be clear, PLEX doesn’t put the recordings back on the TiVo, just makes them available for streaming back to the TiVo, a critical distinction for many users.
     
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  5. lhvetinari

    lhvetinari Watching telly, drinking wine - Lily Allen TCF Club

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    True, there's still no way to actually "transfer" back to the TiVo natively, unless you do a 3 way shift with a TE3 unit as an intermediary (which can be a mighty pain in the A--)
     
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  6. mrfixit454

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    Thanks for all the info.. I'm kind of bummed. Should have read here first. I have an OTA premier and OTA Roamio and just ordered an OTA Bolt with the great deals they have. I move some shows from the Roamio to PC and back using desktop or PiTivo, (Which ever I can get to work) and transfer shows between the 2 units. Sounds like its a limited or no option for the Bolt OTA. We do watch shows from tivos in the other rooms which is what we really like and the transferring shows from/to PC is not a real show stopper. I need to read this all again ;) as its a little confusing. I installed a Tivo mini 3 or 4 months ago in the "Kid Shed" that downgraded it said to work with my Roamio. Didn't really know what that meant at the time but I do now. When the bolt comes, I want to move the bedroom premiere to the Kid Shed and Mini to the garage.
     
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  7. JoeKustra

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  8. pfiagra

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    As JoeKustra noted, transfers between DVRs can be done via TiVo Online, regardless of the software (TE3 or TE4) being run on either DVR.

    However, why do you feel the need to transfer the shows between DVRs when a show can just be streamed directly off the other DVR?
     
  9. mrfixit454

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    Thanks, that seems acceptable. I should have clarified a little better. My Roamio was filling up. I could not get Tivo desktop to work anymore to send recording back to the tivo from PC. Because if this, I was putting them on the premiere so I could install a larger drive in the roamio. I still need to do this and I have a 3T drive for the Roamio. I ended up trying PiTivo and that works fine and is much faster on transfers. So.. I like to still have options even if I dot't use it all the time. Last time I copied and expanded a drive was on a Directivo years ago and have not researched or tried this on the Premiere or Roamio.

    Will I still be able to stream recordings between, all 3 tivos?

    Thanks again.
     
  10. Mikeguy

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    Just to mention it: you could cancel the Bolt OTA box purchase (or refuse it/return it when it comes) and order from the sale (still on) the Bolt OTA/cable-capable box for $100 more (with Lifetime), if having TE3 on the box is important to you.
     
  11. mrfixit454

    mrfixit454 Member

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    Thank you for the info. I have a few more hours to think abot it. Sale ends tonight
     
  12. HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    Yes.

    Scott
     
  13. mrfixit454

    mrfixit454 Member

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    Scott and everyone, thank you. In regards to TE4 , my in-laws wanted to cord cut so I talked them into Tivo bolt OTA. I installed it last weekend and got to experience TE4. It is way different and takes some getting used to I imagine, didn't really like it at first try. With that said, I returned my Tivo Bolt OTA and got the end of the sale on the Tivo bolt 500G Vox for Cable/OTA to be able to try TE4 and go back to 3 if need be. I realize I will lose recordings etc. by doing this so I might not record at first or just dump the shows.

    What I did not realize is the Bolts don't have the A/V out and only Audio out. I have a few Mini's in my home but pass the main signal to other areas that are within ear shot of the Living room like our Landry room and kitchen. Mini's don't work here because of the lag. I am researching splitting HDMI out.... one to my HDMI receiver and one to RCA (Yellow, Red/white.... composite) for my home and HDMI to Coax for my in-laws.

    Usually I research these things more clearly before I buy but the sale was really good this time and I did not have much time to react.

    Thanks again for the help,
    Ramon
     
  14. kpeters59

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    Time padding 'rolls' from 3 Hours back around to 1 minute (And vice versa). Nice to know; hard to remember.

    TE4 Minus-

    You can't pad a currently recording show? LAME!

    -KP
     
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  15. mrfixit454

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    Minus - TE3.. On my Roamio, If I turn om the TV into a 30 minute show at like 25 minutes, I can't record that segment.
     
  16. kpeters59

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    What?

    Are you putting your TiVo in to Sleep Mode?

    Plenty of people around here (and some Bots) will tell you that's not recommended.

    I come home at unexpected times regularly and will go in to Manual Recording and record a show that's an hour old...

    -KP
     
  17. mrfixit454

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    TV.. Television, Tivo stays on all the time. I was going to say tune to a channel but that implies the beginning of a buffer.
     
  18. Rose4uKY

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    I want a backlit remote and just ordered our TiVo Bolt yesterday. I was told to get the Lux that it's the same as the Vox but backlit. I like having an extra remote anyway and thought about getting the light up one for my husband. Does anyone know Is it the same? I can get an extra regular box remote on Amazon for $27 They light up one is like $20 more. Is it worth it? Anyone have it?
     
  19. teeitup

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    I have the Lux remote and love it. Buttons are well lit and they automatically light up when you pick up the remote in low light. I also have the TiVo Slide Pro backlit remote and like the Lux better.
     
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  20. Rose4uKY

    Rose4uKY Member

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    Thank You! Am ordering it now from Amazon. I used to have a Tivo slide backlit I think it broke. But I am still confused on the IR/RF thing. Tivo said both will be able to do RF just not at the same time. She said if the regular remote is set to RF and I put it up then the Lux remote will do RF but I asked if we needed to pair and unpair every time to use RF cause I read that about the Lux on Amazon unpairing and repairing I don't really know but Tivo said you can hit Tivo C or Tivo D to change and that they both can be in RF mode but only using one at a time. Well yeah why would we both be using together? But anyway I wasn't sure cause we both like being in RF mode but I will be using my remote when I am home by myself and same with him. But Ok Thanks Getting Lux remote now
     

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