Take the Money and Run 8/9 *spoilers*

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  1. Aug 9, 2011 #1 of 26
    Neenahboy

    Neenahboy Statistical outlier

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    This week's ep was pretty bad as well, but the couple went in with a coherent plan and executed it perfectly. The "no phone calls" approach turned out to be the right call; if you can get by with introducing a single variable whom you trust implicitly, that proves difficult to combat.

    The detectives were quite lackluster compared to last week, as were the interrogators. Last week, the detectives developed a game plan with the interrogators beforehand and were interrogating the people that were called and really chasing things down. This week, the detectives (who looked like two bad Mob-like caricatures) seemed to only wait around for the interrogators to call. Why didn't they go speak with the daughter directly?

    And last week, the interrogators were focusing on large breaks in GPS tracking and methodically exploring each one, so I'm not sure why they were so set on the 119th exit and convenience store. It had to take quite a while to run six blocks and find a hiding place in the house, yet it felt completely glossed over. It seems like you can get away with anything if you play even simple mind games, because they simply had no way to counteract them.

    I was quite hoping this show would get better. :(
     
  2. SteveInNC

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    This is the first episode I've seen. Are there rules stating that the perps have to talk to the investigators? If not, then STFU! for the whole 48 hours, no matter how much they cajole or goad you. This couple said all kinds of things that might have helped in the field.

    The daughter was specifically told by her mom to say that mom had just been checking in on the kids (which of course would not explain the daughter's call-back), and then NOTHING else. So the daughter then begins answering questions, including overplaying how mom HATES the beach, which the investigators immediately picked up on as a clue, but didn't really follow-up very well.

    At the time, I wondered if the GPS log wouldn't note that they stopped moving for N minutes at a particular place. I would have stopped at a light instead, had mom go plant the case while I drove around randomly, have her take a cab or planted car (even a bicycle would give a reasonable distance) to a designated spot where I could pick her up, and continue the random course. It's unlikely that they would think to, or have time to check all the cab companies, and much like the employee in the convenience store, unlikely that the cab companies would give out details for an unofficial purpose like this program. The investigators might be sharp enough to look for vehicles owned by the family in the vicinity of the GPS track, so just park in a mall parking lot and walk a few blocks to dad. Even if they find the car, all that does is give them an indication that the GPS track is likely useless as a direct indicator of the final location.
     
  3. Neenahboy

    Neenahboy Statistical outlier

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    Yes, they are required to answer questions, though they're also expected to mislead the interrogators and use the situation to their advantage whenever possible.
     
  4. Jeeters

    Jeeters Registered Snoozer

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    Last week they were focusing on large breaks of time without a phone call being made, not breaks of GPS tracking. The assumption (which was correct) was that one of those gaps of time without a call was when they must have been hiding the case.
    They're only getting the GPS route info - where the vehicle went; not when it went there or stopped (unless they turn off the car). The wife took advantage of that when she said to just pull off onto the side of the highway, leave the SUV running, and run the 6 blocks to the house. Because of that, the interrogators had no clue that they ever stopped the vehicle right on the highway.
    I think the interrogators were focused on the section of the route between 119 and the store because it was the only section of the route that had multiples places to stop - various stores and parking lots and whatnot - which is where we saw the detectives searching. Before that, it was just open highway with no logical places to stop, and also the causeway which wasn't a logical place to stop.
     
  5. Jeeters

    Jeeters Registered Snoozer

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    I chuckled when an interrogator tried to remind one of them of the rule with a slight miranda alteration - "You do NOT have the right to remain silent". It was brought up a second time when one of the interrogators said something to one of them being too quiet - "you HAVE to give us a statement."
     
  6. Jeeters

    Jeeters Registered Snoozer

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    Another rule is that they have to stick together.

    Here's the rules that somebody posted in last week's episode thread...
    http://blog.jbfilms.com/?p=795
     
  7. MNoelH

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    I'm confused on the removal of the keys too. What's the chance that leaving a running vehicle on the side of the road is not going to be driven off by someone else or towed by the police? I guess crew could be there to protect the vehicle, but that seems a weird thing to do. The wife also asked if he had the keys when they exited the vehicle... no idea what's up with that.

    I think the part that screwed up the last challenge, besides the idiot confessing, was they twirled around a lot, made a u-turn, and back tracked which would indicate a missed turn for a destination.

    I really felt sorry for the detectives in this episode. The interrogators completely led them to the wrong area to search. They even tried to explain that they didn't think they'd hold onto the case that long into the hour and the interrogators argued them into the later location and insisted it was there. Even the last ditch effort of the "human lie detector" was clouded by the fact that the interrogators thought they still had the case when they exited the expressway.

    The interrogators completely botched this one and the detectives paid the price; however, the detectives could have questioned them a little during the car ride. Plus, the return call from the daughter was really the key that everyone seemed to miss. They did float the idea of the daughter making the call on their behalf more than once, but both sides dismissed it as being too risky.
     
  8. ireland967

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    I thought she was referring to the key to the briefcase handcuffs - it looked like they gave it to the husband after cuffing the wife.

    Leaving the car running on an open road was puzzling, but if the GPS doesn't account for stopped time it was a great idea. Unlike last week this couple really seemed to have a solid plan right off the bat
     
  9. MNoelH

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    Oh yeah! I forgot about that key.
     
  10. wendiness1

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    I loved it when the guy may the interrogators jump! Well done! Talk about shattering the position of authority they hold so dear. They reallly didn't know what to do with him after that.
     
  11. Frylock

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    I felt bad for the detectives. The one acually figured it out, but then figured he was wrong.

    And these are real detectives. The one with the slick hair has been on 48 hours, a show that follows police detectives on cases for 48 hours. So they are definitely real police. Though it seems odd that they don't get the question the suspects, since that is what they do for a living!

    I loved the husband totally shaking up the interrogators. Turning away the food totally threw the one guy off. And then when they tried to tag team him and he just kept staring at the guy while the other was talking was brilliant.

    And I hope they learn their "human lie detector" bit did not go over so well. Since they got it completely wrong!
     
  12. wendiness1

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    I think this interrogation team may regret doing this show. They may be wrong more often than right and their credibility will sink to the floor. I'm guessing they really do interrogation for a living. (Well, until NOW.)
     
  13. wendiness1

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    This, too. I think any detectives will be leary to get on this show. It makes them look rather stupid and ineffective. Not that they are, but they look that way.
     
  14. FireMen2003

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    If anything, the detectives need to follow their gut.

    I doubt, they would have found the money anyhow.

    The daughter did almost mess up the case though. She ignored what her mom told her and stuff about the sand sorta help throw them off the case.
     
  15. JFriday

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    I actually liked this weeks better, the contestants actually played and didn't roll over a tell them where it was. I thought the guy was funny.
     
  16. mattack

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    Why don't they call like a zillion people, for a few minutes each? That would give the detectives a lot more people to have to contact.
     
  17. innocentfreak

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    Thanks for posting the link to the rules. I knew there had to be rules the show wasn't presenting in the episode.
     
  18. JFriday

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    One rule states that pay phones can be used, the funny thing is it would probably take you an hour to find a pay phone these days.
     
  19. getreal

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    I don't really see a need for an episode-specific thread for this show, so I'll talk about Episode 3 featuring the two sisters (one kept her eyes shut during the drive --- no, she wasn't the driver). ;)

    The interrogators were not very helpful, but the detectives deserve 90% of the credit for locating the briefcase.

    It was funny at the end when the one sister who ate the baked beans admitted that she was farting throughout the interrogations. LOL!

    The female interrogator looks to me like a cross between Barbara Feldon, Pat Benatar and Tina Fey.
     
  20. ufo4sale

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    I love the concept but it's horrible executed. The first episode was completely worthless, cause one of the brothers caved. The second episode both the interrogators and the detectives were completely worthless and a disgrace to their profession (The detectives). The third episode the one sister was a complete idiot and pretty much took the detectives hand and showed them were the briefcase was. I couldn't believe the detectives actually had to rent a metal detective and that one wasn't provided for them. I bet the detectives found the case much earlier then the show would have you believe.

    This show has one if not many flaws in that if they give the briefcase to someone to hide it their house then the person that hides it is under no obligation to let them in to search the house, which goes against one of their rules that state the case has to be accessible 24/7.

    In the second episode the contestants should have never been allowed to hide it at someone's else's house. That should be against the rules.
     

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