Survivor - The Historical Seasons Thread *SPOILERS PAST SEASONS ABOUND*

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  1. JFriday

    JFriday "Just The Facts"

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    I'd consider Russell the best player to never win. He made it to the finals twice but lost both times.
     
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    Yeah, Russell got robbed his first time out. For better or worse, he was a true game changer.
     
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    Russell is definitely up there, but I think Cirie is a better overall player. The thing about Russell is that he's just too darn unlikable. I can't deny that he played two impressive back-to-back games in Samoa and HvV. The problem is that in the process of getting to the end, he pissed off most of the jury. Because of this, I'd have to take Cirie over Russell if I was picking a fantasy team.
     
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  4. JFriday

    JFriday "Just The Facts"

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    So you'd take a player that didn't make the playoffs over someone that lost the super bowl? ;)

    I agree his being so unlikeable cost him a win, and is probably this reason along with his reputation he'd ever do well again.
     
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    If getting to the end was the only thing that mattered, Amanda Kimmel would be considered one of the best players ever. :)
     
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  6. bryhamm

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    The luck element is actually very big imo.
     
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    Doesn't even necessarily have to be a "goat" though. Let's say you have 3 players left and most viewers rank them this way:
    Player 1 = A-
    Player 2 = A
    Player 3 = B-

    All 3 are "worthy", but you can be damn sure that if 1 or 2 wins the final challenge, they are taking 3 with them and will likely win. It takes away a bit from the jury vote. Now, if all 3 left are virtually the same, then it doesn't matter. But that's not usually what happens. I like that they went to 3 to avoid this issue.
     
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    With regards to the final two/final three discussion they should eliminate the opportunity for the winner of the last immunity challenge to pick who s/he takes to the finals. When it gets down to the final three, the winner of the immunity challenge goes to the finals and the remaining two always make fire to eliminate the final player. That way, true goats would never get to the final as they are notorious for not being able to do anything but get carried from week to week by the others. It's crazy that on the finale show there's always somebody sitting there who EVERYBODY knows is not going to get a single vote.
     
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    In a final 2, the winner of the last immunity is sometimes scrutinized for bringing a goat with them to final 2 so they have to weigh that risk versus reward. With the current final 3, the immunity winner has less choice about who ends up in front of a jury so there’s little risk to keeping a goat around.

    With a final 3, there’s almost always one person that gets zero votes. With a final 2, both players have gotten votes almost every time.
     
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    Which is why the winner of the final immunity only guarantees him/herself the finals. He/she doesn't get to bring a goat along with him/her. The two remaining players build fire for the last spot. That gives you a final two, both having earned their place there, and absent a goat. Be a lot more suspense to the final vote that way for sure.
     
  11. bryhamm

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    I like this. Heck, you could do another immunity challenge for the remaining 2 ... winner moves on the finale with the first IC winner.
     
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  12. JFriday

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    Who is everyone's 3 least favorite survivors? Mine are Rupert (just hearing his voice grates on me), Coach (does he think we buy his BS), Former Federal Agent Phillip Shepard (what an idiot).
     
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    Those are excellent choices. I’m sure others may have irritated me more in the moment, but those 3 were consistently the worse.
     
  14. gweempose

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    Rupert was so popular the first two times that he played that they literally created a second million dollar prize just for him on All-Stars. I can't deny that I liked Rupert as well back then, but each time he played after that I grew to like him less and less.

    Coach is the exact opposite for me. I couldn't stand him his first season on Tocantins, but I've since grown to like him.

    Phillip never bothered me. He's an utter buffoon, but he undeniably makes for some great television!

    If I had to come up with one player in the history of the game that I like the least, it would probably be Brandon Hantz. I also REALLY dislike Colton.
     
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    Colton would be my #1, by a LONG ways.
     
  16. tivotvaddict

    tivotvaddict CreativelyChallenged

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    Thanks Matty-Mat! That's a good idea on the Hulu account.

    Along your same line of thinking of returning players not brushing up on skills, it boggles my mind that the ultra physical and wilderness expert kind of players never seem to figure out they need to improve their social game like Ozzy or Amazing Joe. When I watched the Micronesia season live, I loved Ozzy. Watching it now, I just kept thinking he was kind of a jerk and self-righteous that he deserved to get further because he was good at competitions.
     
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    That's one of the seasons I need to watch. Every time someone says Colton I think it's cowboy Colton from Survivor Australia and I'm confused because he was such a nice guy. :) Which season is he on again? Maybe that will be my next binge.
     
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    That was Colby. (I have a nephew named after him).

    Colton was on One World & Blood vs Water.

    Edit: Warning, One World is bad. Like Nicaragua bad.
     
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    Colton Cumbie
    He was on two seasons: One World and Blood vs. Water
     
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    I agree with you that the season as a whole wasn't great, but I do think the winner of One World played one of the most impressive games we've ever seen.
     
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