Survivor S39E04 "Plan Z" October 16, 2019 *spoilers*

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  1. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    That was a fun episode. Noura is a total kook but it makes for great TV. When she immediately said she wanted to take Rob's offer to persuade her tribe to let her be the caller, I thought, "That's a pretty good fit. She's got a loud voice and should be able to easily direct her tribe." But then she went back to her tribe and proceeded to completely screw everything up. First, her lie for why she needed to be the caller was completely ridiculous, and it was clear it was a lie because she couldn't explain to them why she was asking to be the caller. Then, when they started practicing, it was clear Noura doesn't see the world the way regular people see it, and she couldn't comprehend the concept of directing someone with actual directions (left, right, turn 180 degrees, etc.).

    If her tribe had any question about whether she was lying that she had to be the caller, they clearly figured it out by nominating her to sit out of the challenge and not getting any response from Jeff that it was not allowed. I was a little surprised that Noura didn't put up more of a fight, but she probably saw the writing on the wall.

    Then, it ultimately didn't matter at all because her tribe won the challenge so she didn't lose her vote, nor did she win the chance to block someone else's vote. That's probably the best thing for her, because playing a vote block would probably be obvious it was her and would probably bring the tribe's ire down on her.

    Meanwhile, the other tribe comes from way behind to almost win the challenge, and then there was some real intrigue as to who would go home. It seems like half the people on the tribe were discussed as possible candidates, and I really thought Missy might have drawn all the votes onto herself with the way she was trying to control everything, but ultimately it was Chelsea that went home because several people on the tribe didn't want her to form a showmance/power couple with Dean. I wonder if Karishma was ever really on the chopping block, or if her tribe feels like she's not a threat at all, either to win or to do anything else, so she's probably better to just leave alone.
     
  2. debtoine

    debtoine WTTWDC

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    It's my understanding that she loses her vote at the "next tribal council," which would mean that the next time her tribe doesn't win immunity, she won't get to cast a vote.

    Am I the only one who thinks it's that way?

    deb
     
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  3. realityboy

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    I think she lost her vote for her next tribal council. I don’t think it matters if it’s this week or not.
     
  4. tivotvaddict

    tivotvaddict CreativelyChallenged

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    Missy, Missy, Missy. Why would you go out of your way to call out Karishma as not safe at tribal council? She could have spun the story as if she was saving Karishma behind the scenes, locking in a potential jury vote, but no, let's make a definite enemy. I don't get it/
     
  5. Donbadabon

    Donbadabon Bored TCF Club

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    So far two people have gone home this season with idols in their pockets, and we are only on episode 4! Clearly blindsides are effective. Although last week he should've seen the writing on the wall.

    Such a crazy lie Noura told. She could've just said she won an advantage to learn what the next challenge would be, and then offer herself up to be the caller. The end result would've probably been the same since she was awful, but it would've been better than that terrible lie she told.
     
  6. Family

    Family Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone ever unanimously been voted out?
     
  7. mattack

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    That's pretty much why I *think* I would always use an idol, even if I thought they weren't voting for me. Though I also think I'd make it known I had an idol. It would be interesting to try to 'get' votes towards me and thus it would sort of amplify my vote.. But that would mostly be by being a jerk, and would thus affect how people voted in future weeks.. So not really a good strategy either.

    Just plain using it to guarantee ONE more week seems like the most prudent thing to do.
     
  8. mattack

    mattack Well-Known Member

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    BTW, maybe it was talked about in a previous episode thread.. But I usually HATE "coming up on..." segments on TV shows (whether at the very beginning or at each commercial break), especially because they eat up time that could be used for 'more show'.

    The ones that I think are new this season are interesting.. No coming up on voiceover.. and just VERY VERY VERY brief snippets of footage. Closer to foreshadowing than the major spoilers like they usually are.
     
  9. gweempose

    gweempose Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    The thing I found most interesting about this episode was Kellee talking about how she was worried that Noura could potentially blow up her game by revealing what really happens at the Island of the Idols. After Vince's interview last week where he refused to answer the question about whether or not he was allowed to tell his tribe members what really happened, I'm now even more confused. It makes me wonder if Kellee was truly worried, or if they coached her to say that stuff just to perpetuatue the illusion that the players actually have free will when it comes to revealing the Rob and Sandra surprise.
     
  10. bryhamm

    bryhamm randomize

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    Can't recall specifically who or how many times, but I gotta believe that it has happened more than once.
     
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    bryhamm randomize

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  12. jay_man2

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    The only way it could happen is if the evictee didn’t have a vote. They would vote for someone else, so the voting wouldn’t be unanimous if they did have a vote.
     
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  13. bryhamm

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    OK, wasn't thinking about it from that pov. Was thinking unanimous except for the person going home.

    The only one I can think of technically didn't happen. It's when Cerie went home because literally EVERY other person had immunity. She was the only person that could receive votes, so they didn't even bother going through the motions.
     
  14. BluesFools

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    Back when there were only 2 at final tribal the person who won the final immunity challenge was the only one to vote. So in season 1, Kelly won immunity. Rich could only vote for Rudy, Rudy could only vote for Rich so neither voted. Kelly's one and only vote was "unanimous" in voting out Rudy.
     
  15. DancnDude

    DancnDude Thrice as nice TCF Club

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    The vote blocker power that was offered was not even close to being worth risking her vote for. Even if she wins it by being selected as the caller, she could have been terrible at it and then put a target on herself for screwing up in the challenge, and the reward wouldn't even have protected her like an idol would have. This was definitely one to turn down unless you had a real specific need or the prize got increased significantly.
     
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  16. gweempose

    gweempose Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Yep. That was a horrible deal they presented to her, and she was foolish for taking it.
     
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  17. heySkippy

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    I wonder what kind of deal sweeteners Rob had for Noura if she had balked at the initial deal?
     
  18. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    Which is why Rob kind of tried to coach her into thinking about it a little bit, but she just barrelled straight ahead without even noticing.
     
  19. jeetkunedo

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    The only true unanimous vote I recall is the guy who outed the trans guy at Tribal Council. Even he agreed he needed to go.
     
  20. Hcour

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    Wayyyy too much Noura the first half of the episode for me, though I did love it when, after all that rigmarole, the tribe essentially threw her out of the challenge.

    Karishma whines and whines about being on the bottom but apparently doesn't contribute a darn thing around the camp to at least make an attempt to improve her status.

    Getting blindsided is always bad enough, but with an idol sitting in your pocket... I always think those folks must feel complete fools.

    Elaine is really growing on me. She can be a bit full of herself at times, but she's also very sensible and likable. She could go far.
     
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