Survivor: Philippines 11/21/12

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Turtleboy, Nov 21, 2012.

  1. bareyb

    bareyb Under Maintenance TCF Club

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    Wow. What a trip. I thought I recognized him from somehwere... I kept thinking it was because he sounds exactly like Alan Alda from his M*A*S*H Days. :p
     
  2. Turtleboy

    Turtleboy Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Do you think Abi is embarrassed by how she is appearing on TV? I don't think so.

    People like Richard Hatch or Russell loved being the villan. Abi isn't smart enough to be self-aware.
     
  3. bryhamm

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    Yeah, I don't get why he wouldn't want to do that. Doesn't really make sense.
     
  4. bryhamm

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    Why would she give him the idol? Redeem herself for what purpose? She would be on the jury at that point and what good does it do then?
     
  5. Kylep

    Kylep Doomed! (DOOMED!)

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    I think she's a little embarrassed, but as she sits around watching this with friends and family she is talking constantly about how unfair they are editing her, and about all the stuff they aren't showing.

    Unless she never gets voted out, then she's all "haha, screw them, I'm awesome"

    I'd also wager that nobody who is "close" to her doesn't know exactly when she was voted out and who was in the final and who she voted for. Her inability to stop talking would make any NDA irrelevant.
     
  6. Turtleboy

    Turtleboy Well-Known Member TCF Club

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  7. bareyb

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  8. heySkippy

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    Very interesting. I don't recall ever seeing a contestant talk publicly about being on the show while it's airing. I'm also a bit envious. I want to be FB friends with Yau-Man Chan!
     
  9. terpfan1980

    terpfan1980 It's Just TV TCF Club

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    She'll be on the jury in one more round of the game unless she gets incredibly lucky and wins an Immunity Challenge or somehow is able to forge an alliance with people she has already irritated beyond belief. Even with Penner and Carter needing someone's help to break up the new gang of 4 that Malcolm/Denyse and Lisa/Skupin have formed, she is the odd person out and won't make it much farther along.

    While the prize money may go up slightly for making it a little further along, her chances of winning the game are so long at this point that her best hope to not look like the total beeyotch that she has appeared to be would have been for her to give Pete the idol and make it known that she had. If she had done that Pete probably would have been save the idol for another week insuring he made it to at least two more tribals with just about anything happening.

    Pete had the physical capability to go farther and he was aligned with her. Other, more gracious, people would likely have tried to make sure that their partner survived, especially in the face of damning evidence that the Survivor world hates them. Abi is too clueless to recognize any of that, too selfish, and too greedy all at the same time. So, she blew it for herself, and for her alliance. Way to go.

    Depending on what conversations go on back at the ponderosa, she'd also have had the opportunity to try to make friends for Pete there.
     
  10. JLucPicard

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    I really don't understand your logic - am I missing something obvious???

    What AT ALL does she gain by giving the idol to Pete and bowing out of the game, as she would surely have been voted out instead of him, especially if she makes it known she gave Pete the idol.

    So what if he makes it a little further in the game if she's on the jury? How does that benefit her? They all start playing for monetary gain. If she is certain she's one of the next two to be voted out, and can assure she not the NEXT one voted out, her monetary gain is a bit larger. What incentive would she have to sacrifice that???

    I must just be dense, but I'm not seeing it. :shrug: I have yet to see anyone play this game for benevolence sake.
     
  11. getreal

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    You're not alone, JLP. I didn't understand that logic either.
     
  12. bleen

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    Coach-type "honor"?
     
  13. tiams

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    Abi (or anyone for that matter) should never give up. She could absolutely make it to the final three. Any number of things could happen to put her there. You have to make sure you survive the current Tribal Council, nothing else matters if you don't.
     
  14. tiams

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    I don't think you understand the goal of every game ever played by individuals.
     
  15. Turtleboy

    Turtleboy Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I think she is going to win the next immunity challenge - or find a way to save herself. She's hinting at it on her Facebook page.
     
  16. stellie93

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    It would be funny if she really won, but she loses the money because she can't follow the rules on not giving away anything on your facebook page. ;)

    Anyone with as little a chance to get a vote in the finale as her has a chance to get there.
     
  17. heySkippy

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    She would be perfect to take to the final 3. I wouldn't be surprised at all if she makes it that far.
     
  18. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    I don't get that quote at all. I'm sure the producers have the challenges planned out ahead of time and don't tailor them to create a desired outcome. Besides, I'm guessing it takes a couple days to set up and test each challenge. They must have had that challenge already planned and underway before they knew that Abi and Pete would be on the chopping block.
    There's nothing wrong with being an actor. He's not going to be voted out of the game for that. The only reason Lisa is keeping her former profession a secret is that people will assume she's super rich from being a star on a network sitcom for nine seasons. Whether she still has any of that money is irrelevant, people will assume she's rich and vote her out. But if Penner has had a couple acting gigs that paid him scale, that's nothing he needs to hide. He's not getting rich from the occasional guest spot.
     
  19. Anubys

    Anubys All About Footwork

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    I'm sure the person quoted could have said it better. I think what is meant is "why have a challenge where there is a chance that the person(s) that must win are eliminated early and therefore all drama is lost?".

    It's a protest against any challenge where x number of people advance in stages. I agree. Lord knows we've seen miraculous comebacks before (or epic chokes, depending on how you want to look at it), why remove this drama?
     
  20. laria

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    This was addressed in the Jeff Probst Q&A. The multi-stage challenges are fallback challenges that they use when there are production issues that prevent them from building or using the bigger ones.

     

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