Survivor: Island of the Idols (Season 39) OAD 10/2/19

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  1. gweempose

    gweempose Well-Known Member

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    Yep. After watching so many seasons, the players have learned that the best way to get rid of a big theat is by blindsiding them early. If you are good at challenges, a strong strategist, or even too likeable, it's actually a liability now. This is why it has become so much more difficult for returning players to gain any early traction. Unfortunetly, this also has the side effect of having some of the most interesting players voted out of the game early.
     
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  2. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    I think Rob is empowered to do whatever he needs to do in order to get the cast member to "play" the game. If he perceived that Kellee was wavering because she didn't think it was worth the risk, then he was smart to sweeten the pot. We also don't know if he offered an intermediate step between those two and it was just cut out of the edit for time.

    After the first episode, I heard people talking about how it wasn't fair because Elizabeth could not have known that it was OK to haggle with Rob. But that wasn't what she was supposed to do. She was supposed to say, "No, I don't want to play, there's no way I can beat you so it's not worth the risk" and then he would have changed the rules. Probably given himself some kind of handicap or given her a headstart. But she took the deal too quickly.
     
  3. tivotvaddict

    tivotvaddict CreativelyChallenged

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    True. I think it also means that this is just another step in the evolution of strategy, to borrow a RHAP-UP term. It is just changing what it takes to get to the end, and the really good players will realize it and adapt to it as they go.

    It's what keeps this show interesting after so many years. You can't just study and say "oh this is what it takes to win" and do it. You have to adapt to changing players and a changing game. Additionally, it's what keeps us as viewers from saying "that's who will win because they are X, Y and Z." We have no idea what X, Y and z is needed to win in any given season
     
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  4. David Platt

    David Platt Mouse Master TCF Club

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    Forgot to comment on one of my favorite moments from this ep: when Kellee hid the idol in her hair. That was really freaking smart.
     
  5. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    It was smart as long as it stays in and nobody happens to touch her hair when giving her a hug or something. Seems like it turned out OK for her.
     
  6. 7thton

    7thton No raindrop ever falls in the wrong place

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    Apparently Sandra helped her hide it in there too!
     
  7. tivotvaddict

    tivotvaddict CreativelyChallenged

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    Let's hope future seasons don't feature prison style strip searches give the plethora of contestants offering to take off their clothes to prove they don't have an idol. :eek:
     
  8. sushikitten

    sushikitten LivingLippy.com TCF Club

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    I'm liking Sandra and Rob more than I thought I would but I'm not enjoying their advice sessions overall. Granted we aren't seeing everything, but what kind of advice is "Pay attention"? That could have been done much more quickly them an hour of chat. Yes the questions gave them ammo for the quiz but I just didn't love it. I want to see them giving much more advice.
     
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  9. gweempose

    gweempose Well-Known Member

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    I'm hoping as it gets deeper into the game that players will be able to receive actual advice from them. The potential problem I see is that this could lead to a conflict of interest. How can Rob and Sandra give advice when they may be privy to information that the contestant doesn't have? If someone confides in them, it wouldn't be fair for Rob and Sandra to share that infromation with someone else. Because of this, I think they may be forced to remian neutral and just give general advice instead of recommendations on how to act in a particular situation.
     

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