Survivor: Cook Islands 9/14/06 "I can forgive her..."

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  1. Sep 15, 2006 #41 of 146

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

    Mar 10, 2003
    New Jersey


    Overall it was an ok episode and I'm not sure I like this ethnic seperation thing yet, especially since some of it kind of played out really stereotypical (lazy black guy, ghetto comment by black team, asians "smarter" i.e. doing puzzle quicker, etc.) Random thoughts:

    Why should LOSING team be rewarded by sending someone from the winning teams to Exile Island?

    Did they actually recruit these folks rather than have them come in and audition as someone said in this thread? I know there have always been a fair share of out of work actors on these things, but I have heard that 13 of the 20 are from L.A.? Does the average person still have a chance to be on these shows? And if they have been recruited or are actors, what's the point of giving prize money to people asked to be on the show (All-Stars is different)?

    Any bets that Cao Boi's name is made up? And I hope there's a back story as to why he wears the Star of David around his neck. Were one of his parents a U.S. soldier stationed in VN?
  2. Sep 15, 2006 #42 of 146

    montag New Member

    Mar 10, 2001
    :confused: Where you expecting them all to be wearing sombrero's and talking like Speedy Gonzalez?
  3. Sep 15, 2006 #43 of 146

    Trugoy Member

    Jun 25, 2006
    I said the same thing while I was watching, he should have just let them continue.
  4. Sep 15, 2006 #44 of 146

    montag New Member

    Mar 10, 2001
    He's been on Survivor before?
  5. Sep 15, 2006 #45 of 146

    TiVo'Brien Now with 2.6% Fewer Organs TCF Club

    Feb 8, 2002


    No, just like your average Orlando area hispanic that lives around me.
  6. Sep 15, 2006 #46 of 146

    katbug Tivo Junkie

    Oct 2, 2003
    N. AZ
    I thought it was interesting how by day 2, you could tell who would be voted out of each tribe first if they went to TC...with the exception of the Latinos (who barely got any airtime), which made it obvious that they weren't going.

    African Americans: Se (the laziness "take a break" factor)

    Causasions: Flicka (for letting out the chickens)

    Asians: Caio (for being "different"...I agree that he comes off as a BS artist, I'm curious if he will prove that he's not before getting evicted. I was worried about the headache cure until I saw what he was doing, which is what I do to myself when I get a really bad one just 'cuz I figured it puts pressure, then release on the sinuses...and it does work! Of course, I don't leave an indicator on my forhead though, lol).

    As for the recruiting, I read the same thing somewhere (or watched in an interview or something)...they didn't have enough diversity in the auditions, so went to places like to recruit. They said it was the most difficult casting they've had to do 'cuz they aren't used to having to go out and find people for the cast.
    This should be an interesting far no one stands out to me as a "dislike"...but I'm sure they're still on their best behavior, lol.
  7. Sep 15, 2006 #47 of 146

    Charlutz New Member

    Apr 7, 2005
    Columbia, MD
    Not at all. The US troops left Viet Nam in 1973, but the war continued until 1975 and the two countries weren't merged under the communists until 1976. His survivor bio says he is 42 and left Viet Nam as a war refugee in 1975 when he was 11. I think 11 is probably old enough to remember a few things about a civil war and leaving your country to a place where you are going to school with 6th graders and don't know the language. He's not nearly as american as the others.
  8. Sep 15, 2006 #48 of 146

    jeff125va New Member

    Mar 15, 2001
    Ashburn, VA USA
    Good point, you think they'd at least exempt the 1st or 1st & 2nd place teams from being exiled. Although you could just look at it as a consolation prize sort of thing.

    Evidently they did. Probst said in an interview that the reason the contestants have mostly been white (aside from the overall population itself) is just because of the applicant pool, which presumably was even more white than the population at large. If that's actually the case, then I guess they'd have to go out and recruit people to do a season like this, or just to get more minorities at all.

    I wouldn't bet that it's completely made up, but maybe it wouldn't be pronounced just like "cowboy" in Vietnamese.

    I noticed the Star of David, too. He could have converted, or maybe as a self-described free-spirit hippie type he likes to try out all sorts of spiritual beliefs. Or he just thought it looked really neato.

    If he really was a "boat person" refugee then I would guess not about his parentage.
  9. Sep 15, 2006 #49 of 146

    JFriday "Just The Facts"

    Mar 20, 2002
    Bay Area
    I think the guys used the wrong argument for why she should go with them, why not use the angle that every other team has at least 2 guys and it would put them at a disadvantage on physical challenges if they went down to 1 guy. If they lost 1 more challenge the girls would probably not keep her but the remaining guy.
  10. Sep 15, 2006 #50 of 146

    montag New Member

    Mar 10, 2001
    You need to get out more.
  11. Sep 15, 2006 #51 of 146

    AJRitz Princess Anti-Santa

    Mar 25, 2002
    Many Vietnamese names are VERY long, multi-syllabic names that non-Vietnamese find very difficult to pronounce. It's not unusual for Vietnamese who choose to keep their Vietnamese names in the U.S. to go by some shortened form of their names. I grew up with a friend who was an Amerasian refugee from Vietnam. He shortened his six or seven syllable name to just the first syllable - Hai (pronounced just like "high"). He also wore a Star of David around his neck. He was adopted by an American family that happened to be Jewish, so he was raised Jewish. I was even at his Bar Mitzvah :) And it was always fun when we went to Jewish Community Center basketball tournaments - he's still the best point guard I've ever played with, and I've played with a couple of guys who rode the bench for NCAA D1 programs.
  12. Sep 15, 2006 #52 of 146

    Rolf Revolting Peasant

    Oct 11, 2003
    Bay Point, CA
    I guess those two guys didn't watch last season. With the chance of finding the immunity idol, going to Exile Island is a bonus, not a punishment. If you get to pick someone from another team to go to Exile Island, send somebody weak and stupid. Sending strong and smart people to exile is just begging for the hidden immunity idol to show up and ruin your game later on.
  13. Sep 15, 2006 #53 of 146

    tetspa New Member

    Mar 17, 2005
    My random thoughts - 1) the odd girl out should have aligned herself with the 2 males and busted up the girl clique. 1 woman has a better chance teaming with men than with 2 other women (this is as per my wife who has told me that EVERY time there is a conflict or personnel problem at work it is women who are behind it - give men a TV and a keg of beer than they can work /get along with anybody).

    2) Stereotypes abound: Asian team good with puzzles and agile; White team steals from the minorities; Blacks don't like to be bossed around and are weak when it comes to anything in the water; hispanics are physically superior but need leadership (can't get organized).

    3) I suspect that the producers, believing this to be true, will tilt the challenges so that we don't see any 1 team get knocked out too early (i.e. 5 water challenges in a row, or 5 iq-type puzzles in a row, 5 physical challenges in a row, etc.)

    4) Now, devil's advocate time: what if, after 3 episodes, the same team has lost all 3 challenges and is down to 2 people? Will the producers, fearing a minority backlash/protest (assuming it is not the all-white time that is knocked out first), merge earlier than planned or do something to disrupt the pattern?

    5) Finally, I am curious if one can predict who will lose and who will win by analyzing screen time of each contestant on the first few episodes. My gut feeling is that USUALLY the winner does not get much screen time in the first few episodes, while the kooky characters that are given a lot of time (cow boy) will be around for a while, but eventually get voted off.
  14. Sep 15, 2006 #54 of 146

    getreal postcrastinator

    Sep 29, 2003
    With Exile Isle being so tiny, you would think the idol would be a cinch to find.
  15. Sep 15, 2006 #55 of 146

    KRS Mmm...invisible cola

    Jan 30, 2002
    Franklin, MA
    Karma is a bizzle!

    :D :up:
  16. Sep 15, 2006 #56 of 146

    drew2k Drew != Drawn

    Jun 9, 2003
    Long Island, NY
    The clue said something about a being "in line with a perfect grade" and "when the isle is lost from sight". The exiled guy only dealt with the first part, assumed that meant an "A+" and begun digging under the trees.

    I'm thinking "grade" implies "slope", and he has to go somewhere where he can't see the other island(s) ...

    Anyone have any thoughts on this?
  17. Sep 15, 2006 #57 of 146

    MitchO Blasphemer: Uses DVR

    Nov 7, 2003
    Lyndhurst NJ
    It said "highest grade", which to me meant you go to the top of the slope and look for the spot where the southern isle (the one mentioned in the clue) is obscured.
  18. Sep 15, 2006 #58 of 146

    drew2k Drew != Drawn

    Jun 9, 2003
    Long Island, NY
    So we're in agreement about the clue then. Why couldn't the guy figure that out?
  19. Sep 15, 2006 #59 of 146

    jeff125va New Member

    Mar 15, 2001
    Ashburn, VA USA
    I believe it was specifically the southern isle.
  20. Sep 15, 2006 #60 of 146

    Philosofy Super Duper Member

    Feb 21, 2000
    My best friend in college was 12 when he came here from Nam. His father was delayed, and couldn't get to the rendevous point, so his family had to leave without him. For years they thought he was dead. On the boat, they got fired upon, so my friend, all of 12, picks up a rifle and starts firing back.

    When they got to the refugee camp in the Phillipines, his family got separated: mom, grandma, little brothers and sisters. There were thousands upon thousands there, and my friend went three days without eating: he stood at each food line all day long until he rounded up his whole family.

    My friend is smart, gutsy, courageous and kind. Don't dismiss Cowboy: you never know what he's actually seen.

    Oh, and is it me, or did they pick minorities with little or no accents at all. Those black women are not speaking ebonics at all, and I can't hear much of an accent from the Latino team either.

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