Survivor - 5/4/11

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by VegasVic, May 4, 2011.

  1. WO312

    WO312 Well-Known Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    I'm not liking RI at this point either. As mentioned, it will be really ugly if a Zapatera wins it all. My hope at this point is that it all works out O.K. I seem to recall Jeff being upbeat about RI in his earlier blogs, which I don't think he would have been if it turned out ugly.

    But we'll see. Maybe I have a different definition of ugly than Jeff does.
  2. VegasVic

    VegasVic Craps Player

    Nov 21, 2002
    The Craps Table
    It's hard to say with Jeff. As an executive producer I'm sure he was involved in the decision to do the RI thing so he'll try to spin it as positive no matter how it actually turns out.
  3. Jeeters

    Jeeters Registered Snoozer

    Feb 25, 2003
    He mentioned in some very early blog or interview (i forget) that he was against the idea of RI.
  4. BradJW

    BradJW Well-Known Member

    Jun 9, 2008
  5. laria

    laria Librocubicularist

    Sep 7, 2000
    Seacoast, NH
    Me too. I am not bothering with these video blogs anymore.
  6. JFriday

    JFriday "Just The Facts"

    Mar 20, 2002
    Bay Area
    I like the video blog.
  7. Azlen

    Azlen Well-Known Member

    Nov 24, 2002
    Peoria, AZ

    I don't think he's necessarily playing it any different. He has a group of people sucked in by his celebrity and are letting him play the game for them. A different group of people may have yielded a completely different result.
  8. betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

    Dec 26, 2005
    A Galaxy...
    As the other tribe did with Russell. However, Boston Rob may have played it differently over there also.
  9. Zephyr

    Zephyr Well-Known Member

    Sep 16, 2005
    From 9 to 2 or 3 in two shows??? The idol is only going to be good for another vote it seems. They cancel that at the end. We've gotta be seeing a massive blood letting here shortly.
  10. SurvivorFan

    SurvivorFan & TiVo Loyalist

    Mar 9, 2011
    is it...
    Me neither. Bring back the text blog!
  11. hefe

    hefe Rebus Philbin

    Dec 5, 2000
    CO via Chi-town
    I think they do a lot of editing to misdirect, not foreshadow.

    Not me. If someone is in physical distress, you help them, game or no game, friend or foe. The challenge was over. Heat stroke can be very serious. Kudos to anyone that helped him. :up:
  12. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Raconteur TCF Club

    Jan 6, 2003
    I've thought about this, and think his choice may have been the better decision. As you say, he probably didn't LOSE any votes with it. And there is the possibility he could get some, should he be in the finals.

    He is playing to win, not comfort. Rather than take something for himself, he chose a path that has a very small percent of payoff. But it's greater than the -0- payoff of the other choices. That's playing to win. Regardless.

    That's part of what bugs me about RI. By now, you would have a bunch of jury members, all getting to watch TC and forming opinions. Instead the jury is half the size it should be, and I think that changes the dynamics of voting.

    Having said that, RI introduces its own dynamics. I'll reserve my final decision until we see how it plays out.

    And finally, as a deaf person, Jeff's video blogs are useless. I've posted as such on his forum.
  13. stellie93

    stellie93 Well-Known Member

    Feb 25, 2006
    I thought the duel was easier physically than the other challenge because the RI people get less food and would be more worn down if they've been there a while. I read somewhere that they get a minimal amount of rice and nothing else. (could be wrong about that) Isn't there any food growing in the jungle?

    I have never heard Matt say that God wanted him to win. He just feels that He has a plan for his life, and Matt is trying to accept whatever that is. A few weeks ago he thought God must want him to go, but he didn't quit trying. It just seemed too hard to him. I don't really look at things like that, but I don't see anything wrong with his attitude. One of the main things a Christian is supposed to do is to spread the word about Jesus's love and offer of salvation. This is a prime opportunity to do that.

    I'm surprised at this point that they will let Rob pick anyone but Phillip to go home. He's the one no one likes, so how does Rob explain keeping him? I haven't seen many of the conversations you usually have where he promises everyone he will take them to the final 2 or 3. Has he promised Grant and Natalie? So why keep Phillip?
  14. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003
    Of course Rob doesn't want to have this conversation with anyone. If Andrea, Ashley and Grant realized they were going to be #4, 5, and 6, they would have sided with Steve and Ralph and turned the tide back then. Instead, Rob keeps everyone close until it's too late for them to make any move.
    The jury was always going to be Zapatera members because of the way everything played out. Rob and the others know this. They know that their biggest threat is one of the Zaps coming back from RI, winning immunity to the finals and then getting the votes of all the jury members. For this reason, I think all four of the remaining Omatepes (when the final RI survivor comes back) will side against that person and vote him/her out. They'd be stupid not to.
    If Mike is the survivor from RI, he'll join the game when there are four other players left. He will try to convince two of them to side with him and vote out the other two. However, the four Omatepe would be foolish to side with Mike, because if any former Zap gets to the final three, they're almost guaranteed to win because of the makeup of the jury, so basically, it was a very, very long shot for Mike to give the family visits to the Omatepes.
  15. Magister

    Magister Fat, Dumb and Happy

    Oct 17, 2004
    Columbia, SC
    Philip started acting crazy again. He has to be careful not to be 'too crazy' and force people to kick him out. Taking apart the shelter? That is stupid as hell.
  16. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003
    He figured nobody would be using the Zapatera side of the shelter, because all the Zaps are gone. If one comes back, he said they can rebuild their own shelter. It's a strange argument for him to make, but it's at least semi-logical. I don't see a problem with it. I certainly don't think it rises to the level of "too crazy" that would get him kicked out prematurely. I think the only reason we saw that stuff in this episode is because they didn't want it to be totally obvious that Andrea was getting voted out, but their attempt to make the viewer think Phillip might get votes was pretty weak and transparent.
  17. 59er

    59er TiVotee

    Mar 27, 2008
    New York, NY
    :up: +1
  18. pudding7

    pudding7 New Member

    May 13, 2002
    Los Angeles
    I was fine with RI up to when Matt came back the first time. It should have ended there. Letting it go on this long is horrrible. These people were voted out, their game should be over. No more rewards, no more challenges, nothing. RI sucks.

    It's very frustrating to not hear anyone mention the hidden immunity idol. We have no idea where their heads are at with that. Do they all assume someone else has it? Nobody brought up the idea of "what if Andrea has the idol"? Is anyone looking for it? Do they care at all? It's very strange to me.

    Regarding the RI challenge, the first person to win gets the reward. That's kinda messed up because if you're the last guy to throw in a round, everyone else has one extra throw to beat you. Mike wins! Yeah, but he also got one more throw than two other guys. Granted, I don't think it mattered in this case, but that rule is very unfair to the other players.

    Nicaragua. God I hate this location. Bring back some real water challenges. I like the fishing scenes, swimming challenges, etc. from past seasons. This is a crappy location, and I can't believe they used it twice in a row.

    It's the Jesus Season! Do these people believe in free will at all? "God wants me to be here." Uh, dude, the people who voted you out wanted you to be there, not God. Unless you're saying those people don't have any free will and God made them vote you out. Don't blame (credit?) God with everything that happens in your life.

    This season is entertaining, but mainly because of Rob's incredible play. RI would otherwise have dragged this season down big time.
  19. Magister

    Magister Fat, Dumb and Happy

    Oct 17, 2004
    Columbia, SC
    I like this season, but I agree the location blows...
  20. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003
    I don't think it's unfair. They did the challenge in rounds. If any of the players had broken the fourth tile in the same round as Mike, I'm sure there would have been some kind of tiebreaker, but that wasn't needed.
    They used it twice in a row because their new business model (part of their contract with CBS when CBS renews them for two seasons) is to film two seasons back to back in the same location. By the time they realized the water in Nicaragua sucked and they wouldn't be able to do challenges, fishing, swimming, etc. in the ocean, they were already committed to both seasons in that location. Hopefully they'll do some better location scouting in the future, but you can't really blame them for having the second season in the same location, since both seasons had already filmed before the first one aired.

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