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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by VegasVic, May 11, 2011.
That's generally true.
I could definitely see that if there had been a lot of tense TC's and Rob's alliance was in danger, then they'd wonder why he didn't help them out. But they've had such a smooth ride through. When would they have needed/wanted to play it? I guess keeping the secret could be considered a betrayal but I'd be surprised if it ends up being a big deal either way. Who knows though?
I don't have one 'cause I just watched it at the end of the show yesterday, but he said something like "I don't know if Rob voted for me or not, but someone in my alliance turned on me". He wasn't sure who the other vote was for, or who cast it.
As he left tribal, Grant said 'one of you'. Therefore he thinks the last vote was NOT for him and he thinks that someone was still on his side.
It was the voiceover at the end, after the previews, where they are showing the people voting show their papers to the camera. He said he wasn't sure if it was Rob or Phillip who turned on him.
There is a reason he never got any screentime....
Because during Grant's diary room speech at the end, they show everyone holding their votes to the camera. The other 4 voted for him, and based on the handwriting it was Rob's vote that wasn't shown during Jeff's reveal.
Grant probably has an inkling, but can't be sure if the hidden vote was for him or not. He might not even know whose it was.
I think the point is, that he should know that the vote HAS to have been for him, because otherwise Jeff would have read it to create more drama. This is Survivor 101 stuff.
Only a few of the players each of the last few seasons has even seen the show prior to casting, much less know the Survivor 101 stuff.
Again, he said 'One of You' to the people that he thinks should have been on his side, Phillip and Rob.
Yet another episode where none of the players are shown even THINKING about the existence of the HII. I don't get it. Does it figure into their plans at all? Was there never any "What if Grant has the HII?" conversation from Ashley or Phillip? Do they just assume Rob has it? I don't understand how the producers can't throw in 15 seconds to show that the players at least acknowledge the HII is out there.
I think the group love is so strong they just assumed if anyone got it they would have already talked about it. No overt clues in a couple weeks, so it just isn't a topic of discussion.
The reason is plain. None of them even considers the idea that one of them could have it without telling the rest. If anyone but BR had it, they shout it from the hut tops. Bunch of sheep.
agreed....Grant is an idiot.
If any of the others had an HII they would have given it to Rob or Natalie would have "ratted" them out...
What's the point in showing us that conversation? We, as viewers, know that Rob has it. Ultimately, Rob didn't use it. Therefore, any conversations among the tribe members about whether it's going to be used are pointless if it doesn't then come into play somehow. Remember, these editors have to edit hundreds of hours of footage into 40ish minutes for each episode. At least 20 of those 40 minutes are taken up with challenges and Tribal Council. That leaves about 20 minutes to show several hundred hours worth of footage for each episode. The editors have to be very selective about what's shown. If the HII isn't going to be played at the end of the episode, and isn't going to be a factor in any of the decision making, then they won't bother including any snippets about it. On the other hand, if there is a prominent discussion about the HII or how to strategize in case it's played, then you will see something about it.
In other words, during the "Previously On" segment on Sunday, if they talk about the fact that Rob has the HII, you can bet it's going to be a factor during the show. Alternately, if the "Previously On" segment doesn't mention the HII, it likely means it's not going to come up in the show at all.
Either the players aren't even discussing it and figuring it into their plans, or they are discussing and we're just not being shown.
Either way, my question is "why not?" If they're not discussing and not considering it into their plans, why not? Again, do they think nobody has it? Do they assume Rob has it? If they are discussing it then why not skip a couple shots of monkeys and frogs and show the 10 second clip of a discussion about it?
The HII is a significant part of strategy in the game and it's been completely ignored by either the players or the producers (or both!) for 4 or 5 episodes. I just find that odd.
Unfortunately (for the viewers) unless it adds to the drama or plays an important part of a story....we just don't see things. Just like we don't get to see them trying to make fire, or fishing, or whatever.
It would almost seem, though as noted - never mentioned, that it's known that Boston Rob (or at least SOMEONE) has the HII. In that case, I could understand that there may not be any conversation about it, or that it would not be shown as it won't come into play anyway.
If nobody knows that someone has it, I would have to think that at least people would be looking for it! Yes, there've been no clues, but if it's still out there somewhere, how can people not even be looking??? I'd like to believe that any talk about it is just not making the edit versus that any searching for it that may be going on is similarly not making the edit.
phillip seemed very coherent in his talking head segments... could it be... he's not the crazy guy, and if he makes it to the final 3, he becomes level headed, calm cool and collected, logical phillip? he makes his arguement that he was playing crazy as a strategy... cops to putting on the stealth nonsense and the gorilion nonsense, and the racist nonsense...
is it all a put on? he said it himself, the strategy that noone sees coming... he even mentioned it to his sister... i saw alot of signs of phillip NOT being crazy at all.
He's crazy to think this would be a winning strategy. If the jury in the past can be too bitter to recognize and acknowledge great game play against them, are they honestly going to reward highly annoying game play?
I think he's a crazy person playing a crazy person! lol