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  1. Aug 2, 2018 #281 of 568
    eric_mcgovern

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    Nope, ain't there - guess I need to call TiVo. I thought maybe I needed to force a few connections, but no dice.
     
  2. Aug 2, 2018 #282 of 568
    krkaufman

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    Strange. Did you order a new BOLT via the current promo using the TSN of an eligible unit active within your account?
     
  3. Aug 2, 2018 #283 of 568
    eric_mcgovern

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    Figured out what is wrong via chat, ordered it using a different email address than my main TiVo address - so now the new box is sitting on the different email. I have to call to fix....
     
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  4. Aug 2, 2018 #284 of 568
    Resist

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    My Bolt arrived today and after setting it up I was impressed with how small it is compared to my Premiere and Series 3 OLED. However I have several issues with the Bolt.

    During the guided setup is said to press Select on the remote, but there is no Select on the remote (It's the OK button). I lost 4 channels and several others keep breaking up. I don't like the new interface (Hydra?). This interface makes me take numerous button pushes that took me less on my other Tivo's. The remote voice button is easy to accidentally press because its next to the arrow down and Guide buttons. The remote doesn't have an aspect (Zoom), button to easily change this. The Bolt front panel only shows one red light for recording, would be nice to know how many channels it's recording at a glance. And SD content looks terrible, the Premiere was much better at this.

    At this point I'm kind of thinking I made a mistake upgrading to the Bolt, the tuners were better in my Premiere and Series 3 OLED. I'm really disappointed that I've lost 4 channels with this Bolt, two of which were CBS and FOX. The signal strength meter didn't show a signal, yet with the same antenna on the Premiere the signal was strong.
     
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  5. Aug 2, 2018 #285 of 568
    leiff

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    Ive also have heard these bolts have the worst reception. I got in on this promo allowed me to retire a Romeo if you're intrested in buying it. I think I've heard reports roamio has better antennae than the Premier but I could be wrong. capability wise since you don't like hydra, roamio performance should be about the same as the bolt if you don't mind missing that streaming stuff and plex only does 720 p if you use that. Romeo is slightly bigger than the bolt.
     
  6. Aug 2, 2018 #286 of 568
    Resist

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    I hooked the Premiere back up to my TV, going to call Tivo tomorrow and see if I can get my money back and the lifetime back on my Series 3 OLED. I just don't understand how the tuners can be worse on the Bolt, and why their new interface had to be so complicated. The main reason I bought a Tivo years ago was because the interface was simple, at the time cable TV DVR's were so complicated. I'm disappointed that Tivo has gone backwards.
     
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  7. Aug 2, 2018 #287 of 568
    ah30k

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    1) Are the Bolt tuners not successfully receiving your channels (OTA I assume)?
    2) You can revert the UI to the old UI if you choose. There are tons of posts debating the pros/cons of the new interface
     
  8. Aug 2, 2018 #288 of 568
    tapokata

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    There's a 30 day return window, so returning the purchase shouldn't be a problem. Same with the deactivation- per the email, the upgraded units won't be deactivated until after September 7th, one month after the sale ends.
     
  9. Aug 2, 2018 #289 of 568
    Resist

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    As I said, the Bolt isn't even showing a signal for those channels, using their signal strength meter. Yet my Premiere and Series 3 OLED show high strength for the same channels.

    I see no pro to this new interface, but if I can't get my channels back then there is no point in reverting back to the old UI. Even this new remote sucks, a simple thing like the backspace using the left arrow button doesn't work on the new remote, you have use a different button for this.
     
  10. Aug 2, 2018 #290 of 568
    leiff

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    I'm new to Hydra myself but I think I prefer it despite the drawbacks. The design of the new remote I'll have to get used to but I think I prefer. I like the thumb buttons are farther down which will make them harder to press by accident and their smaller which is good. I think I also like the mute and record buttons separated farther now. The enlarge skip button is the biggest improvement though for me on the new remote.
     
  11. Aug 2, 2018 #291 of 568
    opus123

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    Finally bit on this deal. Retired 2 TiVo HD's after 9 years of solid service. The lack of speed/responsiveness was getting frustrating (especially SLOW reboots after power outages) and one of the power supply recently failed. Upgraded for 1 White Bolt 500 & 1 Vox 3TB. Given the evolution of streaming, I have a feeling this may be my last TiVo hardware purchase, so feel good about bringing all current.

    My main unit had been a 500 Bolt (upgraded fan and 3TB Toshiba) this past year, and to my surprise, the white color really grew on me. Remote is SO much easier to find/see in a dark room, and the unit camouflages nicely when mounted (white mounts, white wall). I have little interest in remote voice commands and will downconvert to Hydra if needed, but figured I'd finally treat myself to a 3TB model I don't need to upgrade myself, or be concerned with a voided warranty (first time for everything). I may end up buying a white remote to pair with the 3TB, possibly non-Vox version so I don't accidentally toggle voice commands or trigger hydra upgrade.

    Not thrilled in lacking an OTA option with an expensive 3TB unit, but do I have other OTA capable units... and my reality will be cable for a while. I also found 4 tuners lacking a few times this past year during the fall 'new tv show' season, even if it was just a few minutes where the end/beginning of recordings overlapped.. while i was watching live news, football, or hockey.

    Despite my rambling, I really wanted to pause and THANK EVERYONE IN THIS FORUM for being such a great community of smart & helpful people... especially in the age of internet vitriol. Always a great place to visit and learn. It's made a huge difference for me in my 15 years as a TiVo user (converting from UltimateTV to DirecTiVo to cablecard models). Thank you much!
     
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  12. Aug 3, 2018 #292 of 568
    opus123

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    oh, and I won't ever miss those 802.11 b/g usb wifi adapters =)
     
  13. Aug 3, 2018 #293 of 568
    bacevedo

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    As I posted earlier, I took advantage of this offer for one Bolt for me. In reading through the thread am I understanding correctly that there are still two more available upgrades with the same TSN?

    If so, I don't need them and if someone wants them, send me an IM and I can sell them to you cheaply (what's the going rate now?) using Zelle for payment.
     
  14. Aug 3, 2018 #294 of 568
    krkaufman

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    Makes me wonder if the BOLT's guide data isn't erroneous. You might want to verify that thee BOLT is attempting to tune the correct frequency for those channels, via Diagnostics.
     
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  15. Aug 3, 2018 #295 of 568
    mahermusic

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    If you already used your TSN for a purchase under this promo, you now won't be able to go back and use the same TSN. (You can try it yourself.... go to the promo page, add a Bolt, or two, and try to re-use your TSN..... won't work.)
     
  16. Aug 3, 2018 #296 of 568
    Resist

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    Nothing to do with the Guide Data, it's the channel signal strength. The Bolt is tuned to the correct channel frequency because every so often the channel comes in but is highly pixelated, then it loses the signal. The tuners are just terrible in the Bolt.
     
  17. Aug 3, 2018 #297 of 568
    KenGlad

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    P.S. I just thought of an option number four:

    4. I have a spare unused room that currently has a $6.99/month Time Warner Spectrum box. I was thinking of replacing that box with yet another used $100 lifetime Mini from eBay (I've already got a couple of those in other rooms). But I think I could do this instead: Keep my Summer-Breeze-eligible lifetime series 3, hook it up in that spare room (instead of the Spectrum box or instead of a Mini), don't even bother to rent a cable-card for it, and I think I can use it to simply playback recordings off my Roamio, right? Then, if there's another "summer-breeze" a year from now, I can consider taking the plunge next summer instead.
    Does that make any sense?
     
  18. Aug 3, 2018 #298 of 568
    rpj22

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  19. Aug 3, 2018 #299 of 568
    avaddict

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    I appreciate you sharing your experience. That is a genuine disappointment. Sorry that you had to experience this first hand and with your own money. I was close to ordering. I appreciate you taking one for the team. I hope you can rollback that purchase and get your life back to normal.

    So... we have a crappier user interface combined with crappier hardware. Thanks Rovi C-suite. All of you "leaders" suck at what you do. Meanwhile these C-suiters are filling their bank accounts with the money coming from the legacy work put into the company by others long gone. Disgusting.

    I wonder which of these people are most responsible for failing to improve upon a previously great Tivo product?

    Raghavendra Rau
    INTERIM PRESIDENT AND CEO

    Samir Armaly
    STRATEGIC IP ADVISOR

    Peter Halt
    CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER

    Sean Matthews
    EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT, STRATEGY AND CORPORATE DEVELOPMENT

    Arvin Patel
    EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT AND CHIEF INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY OFFICER

    Pamela A. Sergeeff
    EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT, GENERAL COUNSEL AND CHIEF COMPLIANCE OFFICER

    Worst management ever!
     
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  20. Aug 3, 2018 #300 of 568
    Resist

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    I'm the guy that's always telling other people how great the Tivo experience is, so yeah this is a disappointment, a huge disappointment.
     
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