Suits - S5 Thread *spoilers*

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  1. Aug 28, 2015 #81 of 247
    flikhem

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    How very Rosalind Shays of you.
     
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    cheesesteak

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    Even though I ffwd'd through half of his flash back scenes, I thought Patrick Adams pulled off younger Mike pretty well. Harvey and his brother, on the other hand, looked as old as their parents.

    Can a law firm call for a no confidence vote on such sort notice? The same day?

    Does Jessica have a secretary?

    Did I fall asleep during a previous episode in which Donna learned of Harvey's shrink? I remember that she noticed he blocked out a period of time that she was unaware of but that's it. Personally, I thought the Donna/shrink scene was blecch worthy. Donna's mind reading act and the "Harvey doesn't know what he's missing" line almost made me want to hurl.

    Let's see how happy Rachel is that Mike's unemployed when she's paying all the bills. Is she still a paralegal? Going to law school? A lawyer?

    They show all the other partners a couple of times per season. I wonder if any of the actors are the same or if they just pull random people from central casting.
     
  3. Aug 28, 2015 #83 of 247
    smbaker

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    I think so too. I'm betting on some kind of vengeance from Hardman or Forstman. Forstman is just the kinda guy who would hatch some kind of get-out-of-jail plan using Mike as a scapegoat, and his 'deal' with Harvey was to stop destroying the firm, didn't say anything about not destroying Mike.

    Can anyone remind me whether or not Forstman or Hardman know Mike's secret? Sometimes I wish they would just do a two year jump at the end of a season and get Mike a law degree. I tire of his secret.

    Assuming Forstman and/or Hardman are behind Mike's arrest, I bet Harvey is back as soon as their plot has been foiled.

    I thought it was pretty lousy for him to make a major life-changing decision without consulting her. They've pretty much ruined Rachel for me over the seasons. She started out a strong character, but by this point she's pretty damn weak.
     
  4. Aug 28, 2015 #84 of 247
    DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    Neither Hardman nor Forstman know Mike's secret. If they did, they wouldn't be using these round-about methods to take over the firm.
     
  5. Aug 29, 2015 #85 of 247
    jr461

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    It took me longer than it should have to realize Harvey's mother was not his sister!
     
  6. Aug 29, 2015 #86 of 247
    jr461

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    I also have a feeling both of these are just misdirections and will be resolved quickly. I am more confident of this on Mike's since there are so many ways they can play it. And Harvey isn't going anywhere.

    I really hope they put an end to the resurrection of old characters, the Hardman/Forstman/Soloft (and any other) conspiracy stories and move into new directions. If they continue with them and some kind of revenge plot I may call it quits.
     
  7. Aug 29, 2015 #87 of 247
    Beryl

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    I enjoyed the season even though it was a fashion show with pretty weak plot lines (panicking and needing therapy about losing your secretary-- seriously?)

    I'll keep speeding though the recordings until it runs its course.
     
  8. Aug 29, 2015 #88 of 247
    wprager

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    Just watched the finale last night (we've been on vacation and are catching up). I really hope it's not mis-direction and that Mike is being arrested for impersonating a lawyer. I'd really like to get that old chestnut out of the way.

    But if it *is* what it is, then I'm betting Mike tipped them off himself. It puts him in control of the situation, which likely allows him to keep the others out of it. It allows him to plead for leniency. And it allows him to get absolution.

    But back to the mis-direction. They said "conspiracy to commit fraud" and not fraud. IANAL but doesn't that imply two things? First, there are others involved (can you have a *con*spiracy of one?) Second, "conspiracy to commit" implies it hasn't been committed, no?

    Can anyone tell me what is so bad with someone buying you out? So beard#1 threatens Louis with buying out his sister's company. So what? Let him. Enjoy other people's money for a change. And same with Smoke Monster guy -- they were going to buy him out at a ridiculous premium. Umm, yeah, why the heck not? If you wanted to have another go, you'd have a ton more money than the last time and many, many excellent contacts in both the business and technology side of things. Or just retire and do whatever you want to do *without* the burden of fiduciary responsibility to your share holders.

    Lastly, if Eric Roberts in in jail, how does he have access to his fortune? Wouldn't they have froze his assets?
     
  9. Aug 29, 2015 #89 of 247
    DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    These aren't business owners who are just trying to make a living and scrape together enough to retire. These are people who know they could sell out and retire right now if they wanted to, but they prefer to continue working because that's what is fulfilling and satisfying for them. If you start a company and build it into a big business, you want to sell on your own terms, with some protections so you'll know what you worked for will continue after you're gone. You don't want someone to come in, force you out, and dismantle everything you've built.

    I'm sure his money is spread out over dozens or hundreds of shell companies and banks and accounts.
     
  10. Aug 29, 2015 #90 of 247
    john4200

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    If they wanted to take things in a new direction, they could have Harvey open up a private practice. They could get Mike's situation resolved somehow, and have Mike work with him (either as a lawyer, or if his secret comes out, as a clerk). Pearson could subcontract work out to them, or work with them, so it would not mean abandoning all of the other characters, just reducing their appearances.
     
  11. Aug 29, 2015 #91 of 247
    DevdogAZ

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    I'm not even sure what Forstman was trying to accomplish. If Harvey resigns, he would then either set up his own firm, or go work at an existing firm. Either way, he'd take his clients with him.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see this happen, and then when all the remaining partners at Pearson Litt see what has happened to their bottom line by Harvey taking all his clients and their billings, the PL partners will all vote unanimously to bring Harvey back, thus taking away any leverage Hardman or Forstman would have over the firm in the future.
     
  12. Aug 29, 2015 #92 of 247
    wprager

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    Maybe Forstman will get killed in prison thus bringing a swift end to that story arc. And Hardman falling down an elevator shaft would be very appropriate.

    I honestly don't understand how people like that even exist. Being ruthless to get ahead is one thing, but he (and Forstman) are using all their energy, acumen and resources for very personal -- and not at all financially sound -- reasons. People like that wouldn't last very long -- they would simply run out of resources.
     
  13. Aug 29, 2015 #93 of 247
    JETarpon

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    A cameo by Diana Maldaur in such a scene would be most excellent.
     
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    Cainebj

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    You made it through half? I fast forwarded through all of them - well except for anything with Gram - I love her.

    Wow - talk about a bad wig.

    Other than that - the rest of it was enuf to keep my interest.
     
  15. Aug 29, 2015 #95 of 247
    wprager

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    That wig reminded me of Ben Stiller's prom-night flashbacks from There's Something About Mary.
     
  16. Oct 16, 2015 #96 of 247
    sushikitten

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    Just finished the season.

    Am I the only sap or did anyone else tear up at Mike seeing the bookcase and the books!?
     
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    wprager

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    Some of us may have been sitting in a dusty room.
     
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    I was cutting onions...
     
  19. Oct 18, 2015 #99 of 247
    Zevida

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    Tear up? I cried through half the episode!

    Lots of hating in here, which is everyone's right, but I'm still all in. Love the eye candy and the melodrama and the characters. Sure it gets a bit tired rehashing a lot of the same stuff but pretty much every show does that after a few seasons.

    I mean damn, the men on this show look so fine in those suits. Very, very dapper.

    I did wish there was a little less screaming - binge watching ten episodes in a weekend and you see how much they scream at each other.

    I enjoyed Harvey and the therapist and seeing a different, more vulnerable and ultimately more selfless version of Harvey.

    I do hope they stop having Louis play the buffoon. Even if his sister said she doesn't see him as one, the writers continuously push him a bit too far, I'd rather we get to see him not be the overreacting screw-up for a while.

    Looking forward to seeing where Mike and Harvey end up in the second half of the season!
     
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    Craigbob

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    Well... Well... Well... I can't say I'm surprised at who exposed Mike, but the reason it was done and the actual beginning of it did surprise me a bit.

    It will be interesting to see how they get out of the mess they made.

    I'll say one thing this who's going to turn on who is getting tiresome, since we all know that none of the main characters are going to turn on each other for any reason. They're a family, a dysfunctional family to be sure, but a family nonetheless.
     

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