Suggestions for mimicking dual tuners with multiple TiVos

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by asills, Jan 23, 2006.

  1. TiVoStephen

    TiVoStephen formerly TiVoOpsMgr

    Jun 27, 2000
    Alviso, CA, USA
    You all are treating "overkill" as if it's a bad thing. :)

    If it's worth killing, isn't it worth overkilling? Just to be sure?
  2. mattack

    mattack Well-Known Member

    Apr 9, 2001
    Wednesday, 9pm.

    Bones, Biggest Loser, Lost, Criminal Minds, (shrinks down) Beauty and the Geek. and if I watched it, Veronica Mars. (I gave up on that long ago due to conflicts.. Will rent DVDs through netflix eventually.)

    Too !@#$ many shows on at once. Need more tuners. As it is now, I have 2 Tivos, a non-Tivo hard drive/DVD recorder.. May end up watching something *live* Wed at 9, or just keep track of which episode I missed..
  3. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

    Apr 17, 2000
    We actually watch all of those as well. A perfect example of when having 5 TiVos comes in handy. :)

  4. davezatz

    davezatz Funkadelic

    Apr 18, 2002
    Fairfax, VA
    I loaned a buddy at work my second TiVo (he digs it)... and now the lady of the house has killed 24 and Love Monkey recordings in progress. So I think I need my TiVo back sooner rather than later to mirror my recordings and use MRV. Then again, 24 is a show better saved for Netflix DVD ... my attention span is short and following week to week is cumbersome. :)

    I'm still debating what to do with my third TiVo (SD-H400) - thinking of sending it to my mom to use with TiVo Basic so she can pause the show for phone calls or restroom breaks. Does TiVo Basic happen to get suggestions?
  5. murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

    Jan 5, 2002
    Berkeley CA
    I'd love to have three TiVos for the Olympics alone.

    Only 2 SA TiVos right now. Two tuners is not enough for my everyday stuff, never mind the Olympics.

    For the OP: we have no cable box, cable is split for each TiVo, each one goes into its own composite input on my Sony TV, plus the TV has its own RF signal for when the two TiVos are recording and we want to watch a third thing.

    Two separate SP managers may give you more flexibility in scheduling than a dual-tuner box, depending on how you juggle your SPs and ARWLs.

  6. jautor

    jautor Also wants a pony

    Jul 1, 2001
    Houston, TX
    Best suggestion I've heard on the topic (which I use to some degree) is that if you're goal is mainly to resolve SP conflicts, then invert the SP list on the second box. This helps the scheduling get as much as possible, and minimizes the number of duplicates...

    I use a slight variation, reversing groups within the list that I know conflict...

  7. dmdeane

    dmdeane sedentary adventurer

    Apr 17, 2000
    I've had up to four TiVos and a ReplayTV hooked up to a single TV set at one time. This requires, for best results, a universal remote (I use a Sony RM-AV3000) allowing you to switch between the multiple TiVos and other devices (the Sony RM-AV3000 can control 18 devices) without needing multiple remotes, and cable splitters, and AV switch boxes (if your TV or stereo receiver does not have enough inputs) that can be controlled by an IR remote (I use two Swann AV Multi-Switchers) allowing me to remote control up to 8 devices (TiVos, ReplayTV, XBox, DVD player, etc) and have them output to the same TV.

    It's actually a very practical kind of set up, but it does require a bit of work make sure that all the AV switches, cable splitters, and remote control codes are set up to work the way you want them to. If I had a better TV or better stereo receiver with multiple AV inputs I wouldn't need the AV switches, so adjust your own plans according to what you have.
  8. Sirshagg

    Sirshagg New Member

    Dec 26, 2001

    Yep, it look like I'm well on my way to going this route myself (3 so far and looking for a fourth). Albeit they are in differnt rooms, but still dedicated to just on channel. MRV to get something else.
  9. dtreese

    dtreese New Member

    May 6, 2005
    Yes, tell us about how awful your life is, Steve. :D That's just rubbing it in. :cool:
  10. TiVoStephen

    TiVoStephen formerly TiVoOpsMgr

    Jun 27, 2000
    Alviso, CA, USA
    Heh, sorry. But if you want to be like me -- we're hiring!

    I have to admit that for the recent Winter Olympics, having three DVRs was perfect. I officially withdraw my "overkill" comment and offer 10,000 mea culpas.
  11. megazone

    megazone Hardcore TiVo Geek

    Mar 3, 2002
    I've tried that, TiVo never bit on my resume. I guess I'd have to get back into C/C++ or something...
  12. OldTownTreadles

    OldTownTreadles Shade Tree Mechanic

    Mar 15, 2006
    :up: :up: :up:
    I love it! You can come over to Wefixit any day, an abler enabler you are!

    Seriously, I've been trying to hold back and stick with a modest two tivos and two standalone DVRs of other configurations. I know all about overkill, with 3 treadle sewing machines, 6 hand crank sewing machines (the treadles and handcranks are justified because here in California we get frequent power outages) and a happy collection of somewhere between 30 and 60 other sewing machines in perfect working order. But I was trying to keep my Tivo collection to more a more modest scope.

    Hey, can I embroider that saying on a denim shirt?
  13. JoeBarbs

    JoeBarbs New Member

    Dec 1, 2003
    Boston, MA
  14. dtreese

    dtreese New Member

    May 6, 2005
    Heh. That would be great if I weren't halfway through med school with a $70k debt.
  15. Adam1115

    Adam1115 Well-Known Member

    Dec 15, 2003
    Denver ish
    Only if you have ANALOG CABLE, but the functionality would STILL be good for digital cable and satellite users... Like I said, even if it shot the conflict list to and was sent to another TiVo via online scheduling...

    Maybe this could be done with a hack.. hmm... a script to pull a list of conflicts every day and a program to go out to the website and schedule it...
  16. asills

    asills New Member

    Dec 22, 2004
    True, but only if you don't mind not recording your digital channels on the second one.

    In case anyone's curious about what I ended up with... I ended up using 2 TiVos without cable boxes for a couple months then ended up with a Series 3 and a TimeWarner box in the second room.

    And I really didn't ever realize that the TiVo units had an analog tuner; not sure how I missed that, but I never used it without a cable box.
  17. mattack

    mattack Well-Known Member

    Apr 9, 2001
    Though there's not enough tuners to actually add padding to the beginning/end of shows known to fall out of their timeslots.. (Thurs night NBC usually.. Often CBS Mon, though I ended up recording the first 3 sitcoms on my S1 and only added one minute end padding on 2.5 XYs, AND recorded I think 2 out of the 3 on my S3 with padding.. but was able to nuke the S3 recordings since each show actually ended properly in its timeslot, including end credits.)

    i.e. 2 * # of actual conflicts would be useful so you could pad everything.
    (Or more realistically, you should be able to pad shows and 'share' the recording on both shows, so it uses only one tuner.. obviously requires same data rate.)
  18. jkovach

    jkovach TiVoing since 1999!

    Feb 17, 2000
    Gilbert, AZ USA
    I didn't get this part. Why would you need to use MRV to watch shows on Tivo 'A' via Tivo 'B' because Tivo 'A' is recording? It can play and record at the same time ya know...
  19. asills

    asills New Member

    Dec 22, 2004
    Good question. I was mixing up two different things I wanted to do. The MRV was for the case of two TiVos on two TVs.

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