Success Upgrading Bolt(+) with 4TB, 5TB + 2.5" Internal Drives?

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by zombiephysicist, Sep 22, 2017.

  1. ggieseke

    ggieseke Well-Known Member

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  2. zombiephysicist

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    I suspect those might be a touch pricey! :D
     
  3. zombiephysicist

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    Welp, the year has passed and the drive is still working. 88% full now. Knock wood.
     
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    I remember the day I bought a 1.2 Gig Seagate drive, I loaded every floppy disc I had onto the drive and it was less than half full. I remember commenting, "there's no way to fill a gigabit drive..." Now look at us, drives are over 7.5 TB...
     
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    Being the first on the block to have one, priceless!
     
  8. zombiephysicist

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    So this drive is now down under $1250. Still very pricey, but this starts to get close to a very real/good solution in terms of both capacity and speed.

    Micron 5200 ECO MTFDDAK7T6TDC 7680 GB SATA 6Gb/s 2.5" Solid State Drive

    Also, over 13 months, drive over 90% capacity. Knock wood, the 5TB seagate is still chugging along.
     
  9. global_dev

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    I just dropped in a 5TB seagate (I know about all the issues people are having last couple of weeks) this AM into a fresh Bolt (500GB) non-vox. It booted up fine w/ 21.8.3.RC2-USC-11-849 on the original drive and the popping in the 5.
     
  10. Kishore

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    Ahha- so no issue with seagate drive...points to something else is up then with WD 4TB drive :mad:
     
  11. Anotherpyr

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    I wonder if Western Digital asked them to blacklist it since it’s not a drive sold in a TiVo or available to consumers.
     
  12. shenders

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    I've had a Seagate 2.5" 5TB drive installed in my Bolt for 14 months now. The disk is
    Nearly full (3.1% free space). The Bolt is running TE3 (20.7.4.RC42-USC-11-849).

    It's working fine so far, but I've always been a bit nervous about it - I've read the threads that say "SMR drives fail early in TiVos".

    I'm tempted to pull the drive out and check the SMART info - reallocated sectors, CRC errors, etc. It might give me an early warning of problems. I can hook the disk to a computer running Linux and run "smartctl -a" to print the info, and my understanding is that the data on the disk will not be modified, so I should be able to return the drive to the Bolt without the Bolt detecting a change and reformatting it. Is this a correct assumption? Has anyone tried doing this?
     
  13. zombiephysicist

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    I havent tried that.

    Sounds cool, but I don't have any idea how the TiVo will react. Seems weird to me that the TiVo would try to nuke the drive, but I guess stranger things have happened.

    BTW do you have the 4TB or the 5TB seagate?
     
  14. multiple

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    I have 4 WD40NPZZ Bolts and 1 2TB SSD Bolt and each of them stopped working in the last couple weeks as the latest TE4 release has been installed. I have been able to revert back to TE3 and get the drives up and running again. I'm starting to see WD20 series drives are now starting to see the same issues. I think TiVo is systematically starting to disable non-standard drives.
     
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  15. global_dev

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    why wouldn’t the systematic disabling be more universal and automatic? isnt the system sending diagnostic info fairly often?
     
  16. multiple

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    It is all speculation. My guess is that they have to test to make sure their changes don't affect good drives. If they are doing this, I expect it to come in batches. My 4 4TB WD drives stopped working about two to three weeks ago over a few days as the upgrades started happening. My 2TB SSD stopped working a month or two before that. I recently tried the SSD drive on the TE3 enabled Bolt and it now works. I then tried the SSD on the TE4 enabled Bolt and it failed. I have one Bolt with TE4 on a Toshiba 3TB drive and it is still working. I had an old 2TB WD drive and it does not work on TE4, but works on TE3.
     
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  17. zombiephysicist

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    Interesting. Knocking wood, but it seems from the very limited reports, that the 5TB seagate drives are holding up better. I'm over 15months now, over 90% capacity, high use. Knock wood.
     
  18. global_dev

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    My 5tb is sitting at 27% full, but recordings are deleting. is that typical behavior?

    My system info says:
    Recording capacity: 800 HD hours
    Free disk space: 583 HD hours

    Does Mira delete recordings even if there is plenty of free disk space?
     
  19. zombiephysicist

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    It depends on how you set the recordings. If you set the one pass to keep the newest 5 shows. then every time a new episode shows up, the 6th oldest show will be deleted. If you set up a one pass to never delete, then something is off, and nothing should delete while there is free space.
     
  20. global_dev

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    3 months. no issues yet.
     
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