Streaming TV is about to get very expensive

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by mr.unnatural, Jul 1, 2019.

  1. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Fishers, IN
    The point being (I would guess) is that you (and I) were getting way more than what we really wanted or needed. So we cut the cord to "trim the fat".
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  2. brianric

    brianric Well-Known Member

    Aug 29, 2002
    Pennsville, NJ
    I could never watch TV with ads after owning a Tivo.
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  3. Anubys

    Anubys All About Footwork

    Jul 16, 2004
    I disagree with your premise. What is happening is we have done such a good job of avoiding ads that content distributors have countered with more innovative ways to force us to watch them. It's not a full circle, it's an escalation in tactics by our enemies!
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  4. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

    Mar 10, 2003
    New Jersey
    Well I do agree with that. And what they've done, is make it harder for us to avoid them. They've tried to do that on DVRs too. PPV disables the ability to FF on DirecTV for example. But still, we are now paying for the privilege of viewing content with commercials. That's the irony. But I guess we've been doing that for years if we were cable/Sat subscribers, before DVRs were available.
  5. tlc

    tlc Active Member

    May 29, 2002
    For us, so far, Netflix is kept year round.

    OTOH, Showtime will be dropped after the last Shameless of the season, which is Sunday. We'll have paid for two months, and we watched Billions, Shameless, Ray Donovan and maybe two movies. Two shows were finished "live" (we were late on the first few eps.). The Billions season was from many months ago, but we had other TV to watch. BTW, we started this sub when network TV dried up for the holidays. None of these were "must see live" TV for us.

    So far, we've only done this type of short-term subscription twice. The previous time covered the last season of GoT, which was "must see live", and we watched Veep and Barry "late". Both subs were via Amazon Prime, so we didn't need to deal with accounts for and paying more companies. And it's easy to drop a sub online. We used to get "all" the premium movie channels in a larger cable package.
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  6. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Well-Known Member

    Feb 2, 2006
    I'm currently subscribed to Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu Basic with ads (per the $1.99 monthly special mentioned by others) and Disney Plus. I signed up for Amazon Prime for the free shipping, but the streaming service was just a bonus. I have grand kids so getting Disney Plus was a no-brainer. The Hulu deal was worth getting just for the price.

    I don't have Apple+ but I do have access to many of the shows they offer and I have to tell you that my overall reaction is meh.

    I've seen The Morning Show, For All Mankind, See, and Servant. For All Mankind was probably the best of the bunch. It's basically about an alternate timeline where Russia beats us in the space race and lands cosmonauts on the moon first. See is a ridiculous post-apocalyptic scenario whereby everyone left alive on the planet is blind. How they can travel great distances and not see where they're going is beyond belief. Servant has M. Night Shyamalan as Executive Producer and it is just plain weird. It's about a couple that lost their infant son and the mother has PTSD or something similar so they give her a baby doll that she thinks is her living son. They bring in a nanny to care for the doll and then for some reason the baby comes to life but decides to switch back and forth between being alive and an inanimate doll. The Morning Show is basically a current event situation that deals with a Harvey Weinstein type of situation at a network show. It's OK, but not worth the price of admission.

    The main thing about Apple+ is that it's all original content. They still have a long way to go to complete with the other services unless they can find other content to fill the void.

    I think that if I had to pick one service to become a cord cutter it would be Hulu+Live TV. I could definitely drop my cable service and still get most of the same channels I currently subscribe to plus you get access to their entire library of older shows and movies for $54.99 monthly. You can get the ad-free version for $60.99 per month, but that only applies to their catalog of shows and not live TV. You're still stuck watching commercials with live TV and no way to record them or fast forward through them. I'm not sure if shows that are aired live are available on demand at a later time. The lack of recording ability for timeshifting is a non-starter for me. I get Amazon Prime with my annual subscription so that's basically a freebie.
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  7. lparsons21

    lparsons21 Active Member

    Feb 17, 2015
    I did a month long OTA/Streaming experiment a bit ago and from that I found that I don’t really need or want any OTT (cable/sat replacement) service at all. All the shows I want are available somewhere on varying delay schedules.
    What that means is that when I make the switch my TV bill will drop $60/month under the current bundled deal and over $100/month when the deal goes full retail.
    That will leave me with my Tivo for OTA DVR and AppleTV for all the rest. The streaming will be a mix of ad-free and ad-supported with some having a fee and others for free. I can do it that way as I don’t ever watch anything live and I’m not a big sports fan.

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  8. hapster85

    hapster85 Well-Known Member

    Sep 7, 2016
    Hulu Live has a 50 hour DVR included, with more space available for an additional fee. My daughter utilizes it quite a bit. She's discovered that with The CW, for example, if she watches Supernatural within 3 days of recording it, she can FF through commercials. After 3 days, the on-demand version of the episode replaces the recording, and forces commercials. My daughter informs me, however, you can circumvent this behavior by going to Manage DVR and playing the episode from there, instead of just using "next episode".[1]

    As to the ad-free, it doesn't just apply to the back catalogue. What's ad-free and what isn't varies. ABC, NBC, and FOX have (most) episodes available on-demand the next day without ads. A few very popular shows will have limited ads. Grey's Anatomy on ABC, for example, plays an ad before and after the episode; no idea who sticks around for that after ad. CBS and The CW also have episodes the next day, but always with ads. Most of the cable networks also have episodes available the day after airing. Being ad-free varies by network, and sometimes by show, it seems.

    Over all, other than sports, we actually watch very little live on Hulu Live.

    [1]Edited for clarification.
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  9. gschrock

    gschrock Active Member

    Dec 27, 2001
    holt, mi
    Hulu's ad free stuff is really starting to annoy me, to the point where in my opinion its borderline false advertising. Ok, yeah, I understand that the live television stuff is going to have ads, that's obvious. But they advertise that the "vast majority of their library of shows and movies" can be streamed without ads. But there's no real distinguishment made on their part between what's part of their library, and what might be "additional on-demand content you gain access to". So it seems like I'm streaming an awful lot of stuff that has ads in it - anything Food network seems to get ads, anything History channel has ads. A number of network shows will have ads either right after they've aired, or maybe a week after they stop having ads, or sometimes it seems like the opposite? It's really seemed more to me like "pay extra, and if you roll the proper number whatever you try watching might not have ads". And of course you can't skip ads on stuff you might dvr unless you pony up to their extortion fee to give you the advanced dvr option.
  10. hapster85

    hapster85 Well-Known Member

    Sep 7, 2016
    I think it's up to the network in question if they choose to participate in being ad-free, and to what extent. I agree it's annoyingly confusing sometimes. Do what I did. Just before your billing cycle ends, switch to the version with ads. I quickly learned the ad-free version was eliminating more than I thought it was. Didn't take long for me to switch back. Depending on what you're watching, though, you may find it's not worth the extra few bucks.
  11. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Well-Known Member

    Feb 2, 2006
    Thanks for that. I forgot about their DVR service. I haven't tried any of their ad-free stuff so I wasn't aware of how it actually worked. My thought of using Hulu + Live was because they offer a lineup that has about 98% of the channels we watch. After what you told me I'm not so sure it's the service that I'd choose if I ever truly wanted to cut the cord, but it's still worth considering.
  12. Dawghows

    Dawghows Liberal Elitist

    May 17, 2001
    Putting this here because there isn’t a “My Streaming TV Has Gotten Cheaper” thread:

    For the past couple years we were subscribed to HBO through our Hulu account. In mid-December I canceled it, partly because we weren’t watching anything on HBO at that time and partly because it wasn’t clear whether or not we’d get the Max upgrade via Hulu when the time comes. Anyway, when I canceled it said my current subscription would end on 1/4/20. But it didn’t. My Hulu account shows that it’s been canceled, and my credit card is being charged the correct amount, but HBO Now is still working. I discovered it when I tried subscribing directly to HBO Go, and got a message saying my email address was already in use for an account via Hulu. So at least for the time being I’m getting HBO for free.

    Has anybody else had this happen?
  13. hapster85

    hapster85 Well-Known Member

    Sep 7, 2016
    I edited the post you quoted to make a clarification. She was watching an episode of CBS's Blue Bloods this morning, which she recorded 3 weeks ago, and was FF'ing through commercials. When I asked about it, she told me she figured out that if you go to Manage DVR, the recording is still there, and can still be played. It's only when using "next episode" from your Keep Watching stream that on-demand versions, with forced commercials, replace recordings. Hulu doesn't explain that. For obvious reasons, I suppose.
  14. mrizzo80

    mrizzo80 Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2012
    Hulu doesn’t offer people like me a 3/5/7 day trial. I was really surprised by that.

    I’ve been a Hulu SVOD subscriber for a couple years. I’ve never used their Live TV offering and I’ve never done a trial for it. I was told by a CSR last night that they stopped trials because people were taking advantage of them. Surely there is a way to prevent that while still offering potential new customers a few days to trial the service before committing. Brand new Hulu customers can still trial it.

    The rep looked up my existing billing interval date and told me I could use it for about a week, then call and cancel it, and only be charged about $15 for ~10 days of usage.
  15. hapster85

    hapster85 Well-Known Member

    Sep 7, 2016
    Sign up with a different email and payment method to get the free trial as a "new" customer.
  16. Malcontent

    Malcontent Ancient Astronaut Theorist

    Sep 4, 2004
  17. gweempose

    gweempose Well-Known Member

    Mar 23, 2003
    Northbrook, IL
    I just encountered a streaming expense that I hadn't previously considered. About five days ago I received a notification from Comcast that we had used 90% of our allotted 1TB of monthly data. We recently got our first 4K TV, and have been streaming a ton of stuff in 4K. Prior to this, we had never been close to the cap, but 4K content clearly takes up WAY more bandwidth. Given this fact, I don't think we will ever be under the 1TB cap again. We are now forced to pay $50/month extra for unlimited data, or rent one of Comcast's xFi gateways for $20 a month. I'm not thrilled about either of those options.
  18. Howie

    Howie Out of Pocket TCF Club

    May 3, 2004
    San Antonio
    I have ATT GB Fiber, unlimited, so I'm good on that, but it's pricey at $106 a month. I just noticed that Google Fiber is starting their street work on moving into this neighborhood, too, so I'm hoping that their competition will drive the price down some when they're ready to go.
  19. zalusky

    zalusky Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Apr 5, 2002
    Cupertino, CA
    We have ATT fiber in the neighborhood and Sonic resells them with phone for $80 and unlimited so if I want to cut the cord that may be the direction I take.
  20. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Fishers, IN
    We have Metronet Fibre 100/100 unlimited service for $59/mo here in the Indy area.

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