Streaming TV is about to get very expensive

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  1. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

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    I will say that WebOS (LG's smart TV software) is the best I've ever used and I use it quite often, despite having a Roku, Firestick, XBox, Chromecast and others. Of course it does Dolby Vision native that I don't always get from some of the devices. And I believe the newer ones support Atmos on Netflix (mine is a couple of years old). With that said, I probably use them all at various times, depending on content (all Netflix streaming with Atmos support goes through the XBox for example as it's the only device that I have that supports it).
     
  2. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

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    Mostly true for me as well. The Firestick doesn't work with my Harmony (700), or well with my XBox (I bought an XBox remote for like $10 for "TV" functionality). But for everything else my Harmony works well.
     
  3. gschrock

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    The shield for me is the one device to rule them all. Although it obviously depends on how someone uses their setup. If they're happy using the speakers in a tv, and running the tv app, so be it, but if you're running a home theater setup, get the shield. Atmos support, works with prime video better than the fire sticks do, makes a great plex client (I won't use it as a plex server myself although I know people do). Doesn't support the 4k broadtcast of thursday night football yet though, which is annoying.

    I finally had to succumb and go with a harmony remote to make it so I could once again use a single remote. Too many devices using bluetooth these days. But even the Harmony elite is a vastly inferior remote to my old pronto 9400, so I feel like it's a real downgrade, but I'll take single remote even with an inferior remote over juggling multiple remotes. (And if you buy the harmony elite from the uk instead of the us, you can frequently get it far cheaper.)
     
  4. DavidTigerFan

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    Disney+ launched, looks good. I need to test out the 4k streaming.
     
  5. markb

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    It seems if you have an Apple Music student subscription ($5/month), they are now throwing in Apple TV+ for free! (But for a limited time, and I don't see any elaboration what that means.)

    Get an Apple Music student subscription with free Apple TV+
     
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  6. Amnesia

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    On the /r/DisneyPlus subreddit, there are a lot of threads saying that Disney+ doesn't work with this or that smart TV. To me, that's one of the biggest advantages of Roku---it works with everything and even if your Roku gets so old that it's not supported anymore, it costs less than $100 to replace it...
     
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  7. hapster85

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    Decided to give Disney+ a try. Since we already have Hulu Live, I opted for the bundle, which reduces the price of the bundle to $7. I don't know that we'll even use ESPN+, but this option makes it free.

    Anyway, the app was a bit glitchy on Fire TV when I installed it at 8pm Eastern. The home page wouldn't load, couldn't create profiles, or even change the icon on the default profile. I could, however, browse and search available titles. We selected Sister Act, and watched without incident. No glitches. No buffering. Afterwards, around 10pm, the app appeared fully functional. Was also able to create and customize profiles.

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  8. mr.unnatural

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    I set up the Disney Plus app on both of my Shields yesterday morning. I had to go through the Google Play store to download and install it. Easy to install but it couldn't connect to the server on either Shield when I tried it. No doubt there was a flood of people getting it set up on their devices and the servers were probably overloaded. I tried it again a few hours later with no problem. I haven't had a chance to watch anything on it yet, but so far it looks good. Apparently they have been beta testing the apps in the Netherlands for several months before they released it here and there were lots of reports of it being glitchy. Hopefully they've gotten all of the bugs worked out, but chances are they'll still have some growing pains until they get it right.
     
  9. hapster85

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    Would it be possible to not have glitches when launching something this large? I'm actually surprised it has gone as smoothly as it has so far. The ESPN+ portion of my bundle hasn't yet been activated. If that isn't corrected soon, I'll have to contact them about it.

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  10. astrohip

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    First day glitches notwithstanding, my Sony's have been working great with Disney+. No issues, and no need for an external device.
     
  11. gschrock

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    For all the flack they've been getting over a buggy launch, I'm actually pretty impressed with how smoothly it's been going. You know they had a massive number of people trying to log in the first day, I honestly figured there'd be a fair chance that the first day or two would be almost unusable as they sorted through things. Last night watched Avengers Endgame in 4k on the shield, no problems at all. Hardest part for me was finding the app to get it installed, the search function in google play basically being all voice on the shield is a pain in the neck. Especially when you're using a remote without voice capability.

    I kinda glanced through trying to get an idea of what might be 4k, or not, and had some areas where I was surprised it was available, and some areas where I was disappointed it wasn't. It'll be interesting to see how much use I get out of it (paid the 3 years up front). Seriously thinking of dropping netflix again for a while since I don't really have much I'm watching on there at the moment.
     
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  12. mr.unnatural

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    I had to do a search online to figure out how to download the app on my Shield. There's an app section on the Shield but it never occurred to me that I had to go through the Google Play Store to get it. I always feel like an idiot when I have to talk to devices to get them to work. Most of the time they either don't understand you or they're just ignoring you. It's like having another kid. There's nothing I hate more than paying for a device that doesn't do what you tell it to do. I eventually got it to understand me and got the app downloaded.
     
  13. jr461

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    Same here (once I found the app on the Sony). The 4K looks great and no issues even on day 1.
    I only need an external device (Firestick 4K) for the Apple TV app. Hopefully Sony adds that at some point.
     
  14. gschrock

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    Hulu live going up $10/month. That's a big ouch. Honestly, the one thing I'm missing is a way to get sports without having to subscribe to a whole live package of things. For 99% of the time for the rest of things, I'd be fine with an on-demand model. But I'd like to have the sports live, and so I'm stuck with large packages like hulu live. I need to compare pricing and stuff now for youtube tv and see what I think. Youtube had some limitations I thought on resolution and audio that hulu had finaly gotten around though.
     
  15. allan

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    Ouch! I don't want to do without Live, but I might rethink YTTV. Problem is, they'll probably raise their price too. :(
     
  16. jr461

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    At some point these options (plus the cost of internet) will no longer yield the savings results people were expecting and we'll be right back where we started with cable/satellite still the best choice.
     
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  17. mr.unnatural

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    It's a bit ironic that all of these services are cropping up. For years people have wanted the option of paying for channels a la carte so they would only have to pay for the ones they want. Problem is, going this route tends to be more expensive than getting all of the crap content bundled in with the few channels you actually watch. Right now I have Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Disney Plus in addition to premium cable with FIOS. I also have OTA tuners with an antenna. There are only a few things I actually watch on either Netflix or Amazon and I'm thinking of dropping Netflix. I have four grand kids, which is part of the reason I signed up for Disney Plus, but I also wanted the Star Wars and Marvel content for myself. If it weren't for the classic movie channels that my wife watches I would consider dropping cable altogether. I have so much crap stored on my server that I could probably drop cable and all of my streaming services and never run out of stuff to watch.
     
  18. hapster85

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    I dropped cable/satellite because of all the fees they use to pad the bill. Even with Hulu Live going up again, it's still about half of what I was paying DirecTV when I cancelled. Sure, they offered to drop my bill to around $90 for a year, but that's still $40 more than my current Hulu Live bill.

    If I decide live streaming is too expensive, I'll drop it. But I won't go back to cable. There's nothing they have to offer that I can't do without. They had a good thing going, but their greed ruined it.

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  19. Rob Helmerichs

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    Cable (everything but the premiums) and high-speed internet are "free" in my building (paid through association fees), so it would be crazy for me to drop it. The only thing I pay for on my cable bill is HBO.
     
  20. mlsnyc

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    From what I gathered in posts here in TCF and in other forums and blogs, the primary reason people were cutting the cord is so they pay only for content they want. It winds up costing less because they don't have to pay for what they don't want which is what they were practically forced to do with cable.

    I think that still holds true even today with the proliferation of streaming services now. If you have a YTTV or Hulu live or a similar service and only get one or two of their add-one for sports or premiums, then get one or two of the Netflix/D+ type type services, you’re probably still paying less or just about the same as a standard (i.e. more than a skinny bundle) cable TV package with a premium channel or two. At least that's what I took away from a couple of posters here who recently cut the cord and itemized how they made out.

    Sure, if you get every streaming service available then of course it'll cost more than a kitchen sink cable subscription. But most who go the streaming route either don't do that or prefer to get their content that way. It comes out as there being more options out there and I'm all for that.

    Me, I'm a cable guy. It's not that I'm skeptical of streaming. Cable just fits in better with the way I consume content.
     

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