Streaming TV is about to get very expensive

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by mr.unnatural, Jul 1, 2019.

  1. Sep 9, 2019 #421 of 587
    sharkster

    sharkster Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Wowzer! I thought satellite was less expensive and that was why a lot of peeps went from cable to satellite. I pay a little less than that for cable tv, landline, and internet combined. TV - I have all the Premium channels. Internet - fast. :)
     
  2. jr461

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    The 4K Firestick has Hulu in 5.1. My Sony TV model (2018) is also supposed to be supported per a chat I had with them but it's still only stereo.
     
  3. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

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    I'll have to try it with the firesitck (I have the 4k version from a couple of years ago).
     
  4. aaronwt

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    The problem is that even though it might be outputting 5.1 from Hulu, sometimes the 5.1 is borked. And actually the 2.0 encode is correct and creates a proper soundfield. While the 5.1 soundfield sounds like ass.
     
  5. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

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    That's a problem with lots of content. Even with that, you have a borked soundfield vs. a "guessed" soundfield (using Dolby Surround). Neither is probably what production wants. So it's really whatever sounds better to the listener. Stereo might be the best option here and might just be more natural sounding.
     
  6. MikeMar

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    So just spoke with Verizon and got these 2 offers

    $120 100/100 Internet/Phone (taxes, fees, all included) and also a $12 rental of modem included
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    $105 about for 100/100 Internet/Phone/Streaming only TV (same, all taxes/fees included) and also the $12 modem rental

    Have the Eero setup but with Fios modem in Bridge. Going to get that plugged directly into the Fios ONT box and not need the modem anymore and go with the triple bundle obviously

    So wouldn't be bad for like $90'ish for those 3 (probably never use streaming, but who knows for random channels I don't get on YTTV)
     
  7. aaronwt

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    The issue only occurs when the 2.0 or 5.1 audio is not encoded properly. Fortunately most of the content I watch is encoded properly. When it is, it will produce a proper soundfield from post processing. When it isn't, it sounds like ass.
     
  8. markb

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    So, Apple TV+ will be $4.99/month for a family subscription. But they are giving a free year with every Apple device purchase. That's smart. Being a new service with 100% original content, they need to get people to give it a try, somehow.
     
  9. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    Tim Cook mentioned there would be lots of other movies and programs available, so I don't think they're going to be 100% original. They must have licensed some additional content to make their offering more competitive.
     
  10. markb

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    That will certainly help. I wonder what they're going to be able to license, though, with everyone and their brother launching a streaming TV service, these days!
     
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  11. jr461

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    I'm noticing something odd since switching to ARC. Again, the receiver is about 5 years old and the TV is a 2018 model Sony (X900F).
    When I power them on, I get sound through the receiver for just a few seconds and then no sound. If I turn the receiver off and then on again the sound is fine.

    Any ideas on what's causing this? I would replace the receiver if it was a bad jack but my thought is that if the HDMI jack was bad then powering off and on wouldn't help. Not sure if this is relevant but I power everything on with a Harmony 650 remote - is it possible I need to build in a delay between TV and receiver power (or the other way around)?
     
  12. Steveknj

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    First thing I'd try is replacing the HDMI cable. At least rule that out. I've had that issue before, and it just did that, but for some reason eventually it self righted and worked. ARC has always been very finicky. As I've said, this Denon is the first AVR that I've owned where ARC works around 90% of them time, (and it's been about 100% of the time for about a year now). When it doesn't work, I'll just run an Optical cable for sound (which doesn't handle more advanced sound like DD+ or above), and every so often try ARC again. It's not critical for me, as most TV I watch comes from other sources (DirecTV Receiver, Roku, etc.), but since my TV does Dolby Vision, I like to watch Netflix through the Smart TV.
     
  13. jr461

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    I can check it with another cable but replacing the one that's there now would be problematic since it's installed behind the wall and getting a new one in there is not something I'm equipped to do. It is a new cable, however, so hopefully that's not it. On the other hand, if ARC is finicky to begin with, even if it works with another cable it may not mean it's the cable.

    Just curious - how old is your receiver? I'm wondering if a newer one might be more stable with ARC possibly (or maybe I'm just looking for an excuse to get a new one :D).

    Thanks
     
  14. Steveknj

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    My receiver is a 2016 Denon - lower middle tier receiver AVRS920H I believe is the model number. I know there's a new standard called eARC which is suppose to be better and more robust, and I think it was rolled on the more current receivers (2018 and 2019 models). I've had Onkyo, Pioneer and Sony receivers that ARC worked pretty poorly with. As I said, this is the first receiver that it works reasonably well with.
     
  15. jr461

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    Hmm...eARC. Maybe that's the answer! I believe the same company now owns Onkyo, Denon, Marantz and Pioneer. Of course that doesn't mean they're all the same. Just look at who Volkswagen owns!

    Anyway, I can receive any of these tomorrow with free returns. Might be worth a try. I think the Sony would be my last choice among these but curious if you (or anyone) had any feelings one way or another towards any of them.

    https://www.amazon.com/Sony-STR-DH7...ords=earc&qid=1568388708&s=electronics&sr=1-5

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CF9H3KW/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QRC9NP5/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
     
  16. aaronwt

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    eARC allows for lossless audio. SO the same audio you can send directly to the receiver can be sent over eARC.
     
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  17. Steveknj

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    I like Denon products. And that one has more HDMI ports that the other. if you don't think you need more, you might in the future :)

    If you are not adverse to refurbs I bout my AVR from accessories4less. Here's the Denon you were looking at:

    DENON AVR-S650H 5.2-Ch x 75 Watts A/V Receiver w/HEOS
     
  18. DavidTigerFan

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    Just cut the cord officially. Dtv cancelled service yesterday. Youtube TV is working great!
     
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  19. jr461

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    Thanks for the tip, although that one is sold out. I also just read that both components (TV and receiver) need to have eARC and my TV only has ARC, so it doesn't sound like eARC on the receiver will help towards achieving startup stability :(
     
  20. Steveknj

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    I don't know if it would improve it even if just one part has it. I guess it takes two to tango. I know how frustrating ARC can be. You might just want to use optical and be done with it. Just upconvert using Dolby Surround as Aaronwt has been suggeting for surround on things other than vanilla Dolby Digital, until you can upgrade your components.
     

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