Advertisements Thanks for the info. The XL4 seller had already given me a reference number to provide to TiVo, but the unit booted up and worked and showed it had Lifetime, so then I wasn't sure if I really had to contact Tivo or not. The seller of the mini didn't provide me with any of that, and the mini wouldn't get any farther than its initial setup, where it told me it was "already activated". I called TiVo just prior to seeing your post and the girl moved both units over to my account. She indicated it would take between 15 minutes to an hour for the mini to see the XL4. So now we wait . . .