Stream Will NOT work on MPEG4

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by gamo62, Jun 17, 2013.

  1. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone verified that this works? Comcast apparently hasn't converted here yet, at least on any of the channels I record.

    Definitely doesn't work for h.264 recordings transferred to the Roamio.

    Edit: at least not using the Android app.
     
  2. gamo62

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    I think you have to get the 20.5.2 update first.
     
  3. lpwcomp

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    I have. Both of my Roamios (Pro and Base) have been updated to 20.5.2.
     
  4. moyekj

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    Even if your cable company doesn't have H.264 channels you can verify yourself. Pull a compatible H.264 recording to your TiVo using pyTivo with ts=on setting so it doesn't transcode to mpeg2. I'll try it later tonight if nobody else has by then since my Roamio Pro has 20.5.2 now.
     
  5. lpwcomp

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    That's exactly what I did. From my initial post in the subject:
     
  6. moyekj

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    I should learn to read. I'll try using the latest IOS app as a client (just updated recently) as perhaps there needs to be an update on client side as well as the stream for it to work.
     
  7. lpwcomp

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    To be fair to you, it also depends upon what "compatible" means. Maybe the h.264 support implemented in the stream is more limited than that implemented in the TiVo itself. Or maybe there's some flag that isn't being set by the transfer.

    Is there anything in the metadata that identifies a recording as h.264?
     
  8. moyekj

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    Seeing as I'm with Cox I have some H.264 channels to test with directly. I'll try that 1st and then a transferred H.264 file just for grins.
     
  9. moyekj

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    Using Roamio Pro with 20.5.2 software and IOS App version 3.6 I can confirm that H.264 streaming (using Roamio Pro built in Stream) is working. It worked for both:
    * A copy-protected recording from Cox H.264 channel
    * An H.264 sample show transferred from my PC using pyTivo with ts=on

    Also, using online.tivo.com web client I was able to play the pyTivo transferred sample. The web client doesn't play copy protected material so couldn't play the Cox H.264 recording using that client, but I would presume non-CCI protected H.264 recordings would work there too. I don't have Android device to test that client with.
     
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  10. lpwcomp

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    Based on a vague memory from when I was first testing the capabilities of the stream, I re-discovered something. You can't use the Android app to view anything that has been transferred, even if it was a TiVo-TiVo transfer.

    Strangely enough, TiVo Online does not have this limitation. I was also able to watch a transferred h.264 recording using TiVo Online, so either it does not use the Stream or it has indeed been fixed.

    BTW, the most noticeable difference in the RPC data for a transferred recording versus a natively recorded one is "transportType": "mrv" versus "transportType": "stream".
     
  11. lpwcomp

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    Posts crossing in the night.

    Looks like it is a design flaw in the Android app.
     
  12. aaronwt

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    H.264 programs are now working with my Nexus 7 and Galaxy S6 streaming from my Roamio Pro. I just setup a recording on MGM HD on FiOS which is an H.264 channel. It's been streaming fine for the last few minutes to both of those devices.
     
  13. lpwcomp

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    Yes, the problem with the Android app is with transferred recordings regardless of format.
     
  14. gamo62

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    With the release of 20.5.2, the Stream can now do H.264 to the iPad and online. You may now close this thread. Thank you to everyone who has posted their support and suggestions over the past 2 years.
     
  15. Dan203

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    Yay! You can finally use your stream. At least until your MSO decides to copy protect everything and it becomes worthless again. :eek:
     
  16. gamo62

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    Yes I can. And not just the broadcast channels. And regarding the MSO changing everything? I don't think that is going to happen. Again. They mistakenly copy protected a non premium channel a few years back, and about 3 hours after I called the VP of Fioptics, it was removed. They have done a great job, and have great customer service.
     
  17. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    That's nice, but the content providers themselves have the right to copy protect stuff. Just recently Verizon started copy protecting all Fox owned channels, including all their basic cable channels, at Fox's request.

    As they start deploying their own streaming/mobile apps, with forced commercials of course, the content providers are going to start locking down these alternative methods. Heck even Slingbox started putting pre-roll ads in their video stream. Unfortunately greed is king in the content market .
     

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