Strange SP glitch (Haven)

Discussion in 'Season Pass Alerts' started by Rob Helmerichs, Aug 22, 2011.

  1. Sep 16, 2011 #61 of 106
    sieglinde

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    That is more of a Tivo Help question. <shrug>
     
  2. Sep 16, 2011 #62 of 106
    hybucket

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    I am also having the HAVEN problem w/ HD TiVo. Started another thread on this before someone pointed me here. Obviously a guide problem. Only solution seems to be to set it to record new and rerun. It did not record tonight and was not going to record next weeks. Has only a couple of items under INFO.
     
  3. Sep 17, 2011 #63 of 106
    lpwcomp

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    SYFY never responded to my query about what they were or were not providing to Tribune vis-a-vis Haven.
     
  4. Sep 17, 2011 #64 of 106
    hybucket

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    Has anyone contacted Tribune on this? They've been pretty responsive in the past.
     
  5. Sep 17, 2011 #65 of 106
    AbMagFab

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    So now that's two Haven's that I've missed, thanks to Tivo.

    It might be time to just cut the cord and stream directly from iTunes. Having a million of us record the same bits on hard drives in each of our homes is silly when you think about it. Just stream it when you're ready to watch.

    If Tivo can't record 100% reliably (no matter who's at fault - them or the listings or SyFy), then it's of no use to me. I'd rather dump cable and stop paying Tivo, and fund paying for shows as I want to watch them...

    Anyone with me?!?
     
  6. Sep 17, 2011 #66 of 106
    lpwcomp

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    John's...
    I'm certainly not. You have a number of options - change your SP, explicitly select the episode to "Record this episode also", get Tribune/and or SYFY to fix the problem. Abandoning TiVo due to a problem with one show is ridiculous. Missing any episode except the 9/2 one was far more your fault than any fault in the TiVo.

    You've been on this "ditch cable and TiVo and go to streaming" bandwagon for a while now. The last part of your sig says it all. Claiming that it has anything to do with this particular issue is disingenuous at the least. Do you perhaps have a personal stake in iTunes or some other streaming service?

    If you want to continue to proselytize this position, go ahead. Just don't clutter up threads like this one with it.
     
  7. Sep 17, 2011 #67 of 106
    AbMagFab

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    Wait, what? How was it my fault? I set up a season pass, Tivo didn't record it. How is that my fault? Or are you saying, because I happen to subscribe to this thread, that I should have manually recorded it? Hmm... that seems like odd logic to me.

    No, I don't have a stake in iTunes or Apple or anyone related to streaming.

    But I have:

    1) Replaced half my Tivo's with MythTV for OTA recording. As convenient as streaming on demand is, if I can record OTA accurately, I can cut my streaming costs in half. And if I can drop my monthly Tivo bill, that's another big revenue savings, since MythTV has no monthly cost. (And MythTV supplements with PSIP data, so it seems to be far more accurate for OTA at least.)

    2) Cut 1/3 my cable bill out by dropping all premium channels. I now pull in what I want to watch via iTunes (or Netflix).

    3) I've been spot-purchasing other series via iTunes to see how the process works, and to slowly get my wife on board.

    4) Watching shows that my Tivo misses, like the 2 episodes of Haven, via iTunes.

    By the end of the year, if I'm on schedule, I should be cutting cable completely, and moving to MythTV for OTA (and thus dropping Tivo completely).

    Tivo is so old-school. Time to move on. And things like this Haven nonsense (which is hardly unique) are just further evidence.
     
  8. Sep 17, 2011 #68 of 106
    lpwcomp

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    I am saying that since you were aware of the problem and that there were options available to you to address it which you chose not to exercise, the failure to record the second time is far more your fault than TiVo's. You apparently preferred to keep it as an issue so you could continue to push your agenda, for whatever reason. Hmm... that seems like irrational behavior to me.:rolleyes:

    Maybe if more people were sending feedback to zapit and SYFY as I have done, the actual problem would get addressed.
     
  9. Sep 17, 2011 #69 of 106
    JoeTaxpayer

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    I've changed the SP to first run and repeat. SyFy repeats a number of times so no excuse for missing this. I missed the recording last night but then manually got it at midnight.

    Really, what's oddest to me is this show. All other SyFy shows (the 3 on Monday) record fine.
     
  10. Sep 17, 2011 #70 of 106
    TiVo Bob W

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    Don't be an a**. Yes, there are options to get around this issue. The point is we pay for a service with both TiVo and Tribune Media. When an issue is reported it should be taken care of ASAP.

    Before you jump all over me, I have had a TiVo since '01 and am a loyal supporter. But recently both TiVo and Tribune have been less than helpful with guide data issues. I realize that this is also the fault of the networks but we pay TiVo for the service!

    Bob
     
  11. Sep 17, 2011 #71 of 106
    JoeTaxpayer

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    No need for name calling. Yes, it should be fixed, but knowing there's an issue, why wouldn't anyone just force a manual recording after knowing the issue existed? Complaining here and then paying iTunes for the second show makes no sense.
     
  12. Sep 18, 2011 #72 of 106
    sieglinde

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    Yeah, I had an issue (I solved it by having two SPs for a show) and they did not fix it. PoliticsNation and MSNBC Live are the same show.
     
  13. Sep 19, 2011 #73 of 106
    RMBittner

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    Charlotte,...
    This isn't possible. You can buy episodes from iTunes for $2.99 each and download them to your iPod, iPad, PC/Mac -- and I'm a big fan of that -- but, as far as I'm aware, iTunes doesn't offer streaming. (Of course, you can also pick up missed episodes from Amazon right on your TiVo. And, if you're willing to wait a while, a lot of TV shows are showing up for streaming on Netflix, but you won't typically get the current season.)

    Not that it's at all helpful, but I'm wondering if this whole "Haven" issue might be related to specific cable providers. I'm on a small, independent cable co in mid-Michigan, and my "Haven" SP has picked up everything.

    Bob
     
  14. Sep 19, 2011 #74 of 106
    Rob Helmerichs

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  15. Sep 19, 2011 #75 of 106
    hybucket

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    Just to keep this going, because I know how much fun some get from knocking TiVO, when I noticed that TiVO would not record "Haven," I set it to manually record the midnight showing. When I figured out what the problem was (the guide data), I changed the options in SP to record repeats and first run. Solved the problem for the time being. I also have problems with several BBCA shows which, because the data shows "original air date" as the date they were showed in the UK, not US, were not picked up as "new" by the TiVO. Yes, it's a glitch, but that's life. Seems to me that to just change the options makes a lot more sense than searching around for a replacement like iTunes or other such nonsense cause you're not getting one recording out of...how many..?
    And yes, I have notified Tribune and SyFy of this problem.
     
  16. Sep 19, 2011 #76 of 106
    RMBittner

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    Charlotte,...
    Well, don't take my comment as praise for my local cable provider. As soon as DirecTV releases their HDDirecTiVo, I'm leaving. The local co offers great customer service -- in terms of service calls and troubleshooting -- but they're way behind when it comes to adding HD channels.

    And, honestly, I don't know if they're the ones to thank for my Haven SP... I just know I haven't missed anything. (But I haven't been motivated enough to go digging to see why things are working.)

    Bob
     
  17. Sep 19, 2011 #77 of 106
    lpwcomp

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    More likely that you set up the SP with defaults, which is "Repeats & first run", rather than "First run only".

    I just checked "zapit" and the 9/23 episode has a "First Aired" date. Still missing on the 9/30 episode. My Premiere is scheduled to connect in <30 mins, so I will check it later this afternoon. I know I could force a connection now but why bother.
     
  18. Sep 19, 2011 #78 of 106
    RMBittner

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    Charlotte,...
    Very possible. I almost never do that, but I'm new to the show -- I've been catching up on iTunes -- and it's possible that I included repeats "just in case."

    Darn it. Now you've made me curious...

    ADDED: Nope. "First-run only." And I got the episodes from the 10th and the 17th.

    Bob
     
  19. Sep 19, 2011 #79 of 106
    lpwcomp

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    Also be interesting to know what it set to record on 9/30. They are running a mini-marathon leading up to the season finale.
     
  20. Sep 19, 2011 #80 of 106
    hybucket

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    Well if you go by Zap2It's current listings online, none of the episodes for 9/30 have a "first-aired" date (for HAVEN).
     

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