Star Trek:TNG "Up the Long Ladder" (S2E18)

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    doom1701

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    I didn't remember anything about this episode from the Wikipedia one line description, so I went into the full episode page. Damn, now I remember it. Lady in the hot two piece sweater thingy, and the ultimate solution being essentially a planet wide orgy. What's not to like?
     
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    I remember this one pretty vividly, specifically the Big E's automated fire extinguisher. :) Worf's illness was just ODD. Why would Riker be ashamed of getting the measles?

    Speaking of Riker... the man has his priorities. "Where can I clean my feet?" "My quarters, of course." His libido was in check until a bit of cleavage was shown, then ka-ching!!! Out it came.

    Greg
     
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    <Breathless Wheezing>
    "Now that's what I call a wee drop of the creature!"
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    Some excellent costumes in this one:

    Fashion it So review

    A fun episode, except that the stupidity between Pulaski and Worf was just one more reason to hate Pulaski (and temporarily damaged Worf as a character, but he, of course, recovered).
     
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    Pretty simple antidote to the poisonous tea, too. She had it at the ready in 2 seconds!

    Greg
     
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    Clones.
     
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    I generally like this one, save for the awful Pulaski-Worf plot.

    I did find the sequence where Riker and Pulaski took out their clones to be odd. I would a security detail would have accompanied them. Plus, watching him just vaporize the clones was strange.
     
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    What a weird episode. The bulk of the A plot was quite a bit of fun. Picard's reaction in the cargo bay was great--it set the tone for the bulk of the episode, letting us know it would be lighthearted.

    But there were parts that were very jarring from that--especially the tissue stealing and Riker killing off his and Pulaski's clones. The episode just couldn't decide if it wanted to be funny or kind of horror-ish.

    Did anyone else get the impression during Worf's tea ceremony that they were trying to setup some kind of relationship between Pulaski and Worf? It seems like that might have been the only purpose for that entire little section of the plot.
     
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    If it wasn't clear before, I think it was crystal clear after this episode that Pulaski wasn't working. I imagine Gates' agent got a call after this one was finished.
     
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    While watching the end of Samaritan Snare, I thought "How cool would it have been if Crusher had been the doctor summoned to install Picard's heart?"
     
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    I'm not sure when Gates' agent got the call, but...

    Star Trek lore holds that Gene Roddenberry overwhelmingly preferred the character of Pulaski to Crusher.

    He HATED Gates McFadden's Dr. Crusher and liked Diana Muldaur's Pulaski.

    Roddenberry personally fired Gates McFadden and told her that her character wasn't working, and basically that she sucked as an actress.

    It was only a massive letter-writing campaign from the fans that corrected the wrong and brought Crusher back.

    Until his death, Roddenberry maintained that he couldn't fathom why the fans liked Crusher better than Pulaski.
     
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    It's because Crusher was "hawt" compared to Pulaski.
    Was Roddenberry gay? (NTTAWWT) That could explain his reasoning. :p
     
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    I've heard a few different variations of the Crusher story, but I've never heard that Roddenberry was involved.
     
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    An article I read during the original run of season 1 stated that he sent a letter to the casting agent that read in part, "I asked for an attractive woman in her 40's, not a woman in her 40's who looks like she's in her 20's!". The letter ranted a bit more about his opinion that McFadden was miscast and implied she'd be gone at the end of the season.

    She was.

    People I've heard speak at conventions stated that he was looking for, essentially, a "female McCoy". A grumpy curmudgeon. Pulaski was that. He apparently thought Crusher, as played by McFadden, was too sensitive and sweet.
     
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    I had[have] the biggest crush on Gates McFadden due to TNG. Always found her extremely attractive.
     
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    According to more than one person who I spoke to who had worked in the franchise, it was no secret that Gene Roddenberry did not like McFadden one bit.
    (I've heard that he often told people that she was a colossal b*tch.)

    I remember reading that Diana Muldaur was an old friend of Roddenberry's (I don't know if she was an "old friend") and that was why she was cast.

    According to Memory Alpha:

    The flip side to this that I read was that the rest of the cast felt that she was coming to the set unprepared and reportedly relied heavily on cue cards to get through her scenes.
     
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    I heard she got fired because she and Marina got caught making out in one of those reclining chairs they had on the bridge during the first season.
     
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    According to Gene, Jr (in the "Trek Nation" documentary) his dad was a real horndog, maybe that entered into it.
     
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    This.
     
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    You should do Farscape next Doom. I am more than halfway season 1.
     

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