Star Trek:TNG "11001001" (S1E15)

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  1. doom1701

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    Of the three episodes for this week, I remembered this one most fondly, and I watched it a couple of days ago. I thought it held up very well.

    There are some massive plot holes, or even just logic holes. The most glaring to me probably wasn't as much of a plot hole back in the 1980's--I can't imagine a planet dependent entirely upon their central computer system not having a disaster recovery plan. Outside of that, the issues were smaller--the requirements for the self destruct sequence, the 3 minute trip to the Bynar's home planet, the way that they somehow backed up the entire central computer to the Enterprise computer remotely, the "file name" bit, etc.

    It might be a sad thing, but I can see Riker falling for a holodeck construct. I don't know if I buy into Picard being so willing to let Riker both try to continue the fantasy at the end of the episode, or let Riker essentially cry on his shoulder when Minuet didn't come back.

    Looking past those things, I really thought the episode was great. It had just the right amount of tension and humor, and the actors all really shined. I think my favorite performance of the episode was Data--he did the usual Pinocchio bit, but as soon as duty called, he really stepped it up and took charge. I think this is the first time we have seen "Officer" Data in action.
     
  2. LoadStar

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    I never got what Riker and Picard saw in Minuet. Frankly, IMO she's a butterface with a weird accent, at least in this episode... but I guess to each their own, I suppose.

    The part that took me completely out of the episode was when they wanted to beam back to the Enterprise, and Commander Quinteros said "It's too late! Look!"... then it took what seemed like another 5 minutes for the Enterprise to slowly back itself out of spacedock and jump to warp. Really? No one could run to a transporter pad in that time?

    Speaking of the Starbase: the scale of that starbase was completely implausible to me. I know, the real reason was that they just took the design of Starbase One they had used previously in Search for Spock and scaled it up here so the Enterprise D could fit into it. However, the scale of the Enterprise D is so much larger than the Enterprise from Search for Spock, that it would make Starbase 74 seemingly the size of a small planet.

    I never got the random male voice for the computer in this episode. It wasn't even the whole episode, if I recall; I think I remember Majel Roddenberry's voice as well. Very odd.

    The digital clock for the countdown was very, very dated looking, especially for TNG... but at that point, not only were they fighting a budget but also all (?) of their computer effects were just backlit plexiglass with randomly blinking lights. They didn't have the flat panel displays to fit into the set pieces that they have now. So, I'll let that one slide.

    But speaking of backlit plexiglass... the activation/deactivation of the self destruct. It was dramatic looking and all, but it really was kind of cheesy that they just reached out for a random panel and stuck their fingertips on it as some sort of identity recognition thing.

    Still... for all my nitpicking, it was still a rather entertaining episode overall.
     
  3. doom1701

    doom1701 Time for a new Title TCF Club

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    I remember the digital clock for the self destruct looking cheesy even when this first aired. They probably had blown the FX budget for a chunk of the season on this episode, and had no way to pay for it, but having the clock displayed as part of a display in engineering, instead of a poorly inserted LED clock, would have looked really good. They would only need to show it for a few seconds to make you believe it was there, and then they could have just had the computer voice (strangely male, you're right--they couldn't seem to decide on a computer voice for at least this season, maybe longer) provide updates.

    Personally, while I love Spacedock, I think the scale of it was always too much. Even in it's TOS movie scale, it's massive. Yeah, magically scaling up the same design to work with the 1701-D would make it ridiculously huge, but it starts off so big that it didn't really phase me.
     
  4. DougF

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    On some making-of special years ago, I saw one of the effects guys talking about being out of money for this one. One of the shuttles floating around inside spacedock is actually partly made from two disposable razors.

    I think this is it.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. LoadStar

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    It is, and you can see Rob Legato talking about it in the "Reading Rainbow" episode that goes behind the scenes of season 1 of TNG. I linked to the first part of that episode in another thread here, but here is the second part that talks about that ship:
    http://youtu.be/aR4AzMfcnjU#t=89s
     
  6. DougF

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    Not to mention those sharp knees! :)
     
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    This was a favorite of mine when I was younger and I still think it's pretty good. Besides what LoadStar already pointed out ("It's too late! Look!"), I don't really have many complaints about this one. My only real gripe is the next in the line of ridiculous planet names. Haven, Angel One, Binus?

    I think this one is pretty solid.
     
  8. LoadStar

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    Yeah! Hey, wait...

    ;)
     

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