Star Trek: Picard

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  1. Jul 23, 2019 #61 of 122
    cheesesteak

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    I liked Quark on DS9. Heck, I liked Quark more than I've ever liked Picard.

    I'll watch a DS9 rerun long before I watch a TNG rerun.
     
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    Mikeguy

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    I never was a great fan of DS9 when it first aired. But over time, they do seem to hold up better than TNG, which just seems so danged earnest. (Perhaps a reason why I like the TNG John de Lancie episodes the most--he tended to cut through that. And perhaps why I disliked the DS9 Avery Brooks-emphasizing episodes, as he seemed Picard-like in his earnestness.)
     
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    DS9 is much better suited for binge watching than TNG. Even better than watching it in the original run. The network execs wanted the show to stop doing multi-part and season-long story arcs.
     
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  4. Jul 23, 2019 #64 of 122
    JYoung

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    DS9 was syndicated so no network executives involved.

    You are correct that the UPN execs were dead set against Voyager doing story arcs.
    (Although they never had a season long arc.)
     
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    NorthAlabama

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    voyager may have been my favorite of the tv series, it had it all - kate mulgrew, seven of nine, b'elanna, tuvok, regular borg encounters (including the queen), species 8472...
     
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    DancnDude

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    Seems like real nitpicking when UPN literally stands for United Paramount Network, so UPN execs are network execs. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Jul 24, 2019 #67 of 122
    JYoung

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    Well, except for the fact that UPN didn't air DS9 as it was a syndicated drama.
     
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    Correct, but UPN stations were the ones that generally aired DS9. The local UPN station in Baltimore dropped DS9 in its last season so I never got to see the final season. Maybe one of these days I'll get around to watching it now that I have Disney+.
     
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    LoadStar

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    ... wait, what? :confused: What does Disney+ have to do with Star Trek?

    Star Trek originally was a Desilu show, which then became Paramount Television, which much later became CBS Studios. There's no intersection between Disney and Star Trek. (Disney has Star Wars - is that what you are thinking of?)

    As far as who aired TNG and DS9, it was mostly independent stations that needed to fill a schedule out. Some later became UPN stations, while others became The WB stations (and others remained independent). I'd be curious if there really was an alignment between networks that carried the Star Trek syndicated shows and those that became UPN stations. I don't know that there is hard data on that.
     
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    Pokemon_Dad

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    DS9 is on Netflix, and I think also on Hulu, Prime, and CBSAA, but not Disney+. The new documentary, What We Left Behind, is on Prime, Vudu, YouTube, and Google Play.

    I had missed a lot of the original air dates while living in a market where the local station moved it around on the schedule too unpredictably for my VCR, then living out of the country with very little American television, then traveling a lot after returning.

    Over the years since I almost bought the full DVD set, but it took Netflix to bring me back to Terok Nor.

    Edit: found more networks for What We Left Behind
     
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    cwoody222

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    In Buffalo it aired on a FOX affiliate.

    DS9 premiered in 1993, UPN began in 1995.

    UPN had nothing to do with the production of the show. No UPN execs had any say in DS9.

    If it happened to air on a UPN network, that was a coincidence. As previously stated, it was syndicated.

    Disney+ doesn’t have DS9 or any Star Trek. It’s not a Disney property. Maybe you’re thinking of Star Wars.

    DS9 can be viewed on CBS All Access.
     
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    Pokemon_Dad

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    DS9 was produced by Paramount, UPN was the United Paramount Network, and by the third or fourth season I do recall chasing that new network around the dial fruitlessly trying to figure out when they were going to air DS9 in some markets.

    In once city the local newspaper was useless, while the local UPN station's website was often incorrect and always slow as molasses. And this was the dial-up era, remember. In some other markets it was picked up by non-UPN stations, but not where I watched, or tried to watch.

    Having lived in Silicon Valley so long, I had forgotten most areas did not air Star Trek 24/7. :)

    Edit: more recovered memories of painfully slow dial-up...
     
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    Saturn_V

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    UPN usually took the most popular UHF channel on the dial. That's typically where TNG aired in most markets. In the SF Bay Area, one channel carried TNG, DS9, B5 and VOY/Enterprise.

    But it depends on the market- I remember one NBC affiliate carrying TNG, and airing it Sunday nites after the late news.
     
  16. Dec 23, 2019 #76 of 122
    JYoung

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    Yes, a number of UPN stations aired DS9 (the Los Angeles O&O UPN station aired it) but it wasn't network programming.
    It was a syndicated drama that some UPN stations purchased to fill non network air time.
    (It was usually shown Saturday and Sunday nights here.)

    My point was that even though DS9 aired on some UPN stations, UPN Network executives had no say whatsoever in story content as they did with Voyager (and Enterprise) since it wasn't purchased for airing by the actual UPN network.

    (In fact for a year or two, the local UPN station had "Sci Fi Sunday night" showing DS9, Voyager, Babylon 5, TNG, and TOS from 7PM to midnight.)
     
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    mr.unnatural

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    LOL, sorry about that. I just signed up for both Disney+ and Hulu in addition to Netflix and Amazon Prime and I saw all of the Star Trek series being aired on one of them. I guess Disney+ was the one that stuck in my mind, but that's the Star Wars series not Star Trek. Just me having another brain fart.

    I am also aware that UPN had nothing to do with the production of DS9 and that it was a syndicated show. It just happened to air on a lot of UPN stations as well as many others. I believe it was the only Star Trek spinoff that was syndicated and not carried by a specific network.

    I just checked and DS9 is on Hulu.
     
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  18. Dec 24, 2019 #78 of 122
    cwoody222

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    TNG was also syndicated during its entire run.

    Voyager and Enterprise aired on UPN.
     
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    JYoung

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    TNG wasn't just syndicated but is widely considered to have led/caused a big surge in syndicated shows due to it's success.

    Baywatch was arguably the most successful of the bunch (even though it first aired on NBC) but TNG paved the way for shows like Babylon 5, Hercules, Xena, the Stargates (although that was second run syndication), The Invisible Man, Viper, etc to exist as syndicated shows.
     
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    LoadStar

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    Yup. There really wasn’t such a thing as first run syndicated drama before TNG. It was a HUGE risk to release it that way.
     

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